Please start new threads when sidelining into silly arguments.

The "IMPORTANT: do NOT upgrade" thread is getting cluttered with
useless junk making it hard to determine the current status of the
problem.

Also, use a new thread, don't just change the subject line.  Some
threading mail readers follow the "References" headers still creating
confusion.

Stuart
-- 
I've never been lost; I was once bewildered for three days, but never lost!
                                        --  Daniel Boone

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