On 10/22/23 11:02, Henning Follmann wrote:
On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 01:24:21PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 01:08:58PM -0400, Pocket wrote:
On 10/21/23 12:49, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:23:45PM -0400, Pocket wrote:
I want NetworkManager to not over write /etc/resolv.conf
https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf
openresolv or resolvconf is not installed
no dhcp client is running only networkmanager is installed/running
Well, NM is a dhcp client, technically.
making /etc/resolv.conf immutable is not the answer
If you're asking us to tell you how to *make NetWorkManager behave*
then you might be frustrated. Most of the people on this mailing list
don't use it. There are some who actively despise it, and go out of
their way to ensure it's never installed. (Those people are a small
minority, but they're definitely here.) So, in all likelihood, nobody
here might know that answer.
Well, that is not true. I think for a desktop NM is the right tool for most
users.
Some of these statements are based of past issues which mostly are
resolved these days.
If you believe NM is not behaving according to its documentation, then
file a bug report.
I did that decades ago, and was ignored. I don't even have the bugzilla
number cuz of seagates crappy 2T drives failing in a month taking first
my backups, then then a couple days later the main drive in this
machine, forcing a bookworm install that took 22 damned installs to get
rid of orca and brltty cuz the installer found a serial-usb adaptor and
assumed I was blind. They are used for a lot of ups's and for X10 stuff
that have nothing to do with hearing loss.
Yes true,
But I would assume that the initial question points to the real problem
here.
I assume you have some special requirments for your DNS resolver and you
just put specific dns resolver in your /etc/resolcv.conf
You all have given me a hard time over this, but I have a nearly 35 year
history with hosts files which work for such as my home network at an
address block 192.168.nnn.nnn that is not relayed thru a router.
So that means my whole network is not net accessible without NAT in the
router which has been running dd-wrt forever. My whole home net has no
dhcp server, host files do it all.
NM, and avahi, seems to want to assign a default route in the 169 block
if it cannot find a dns server, but until recently that default route
has been the biggest PITA ever foisted of on us linux users. You cannot
get out of your T-shirt pocket for any reason, and getting rid of it
seems to be a big secret, no one has yet answered. So we put a
nameserver address pointing to the routers local address in resolv.conf
and quickly make it immutable before NM has a chance to screw it up.
Then a suitable entry in /e/n/interfaces usually results in a ping -c1
yahoo.com that just works.
NM's purpose seems to be is to jump thru dhcp hoops a host file user
does not need, so I put the router as a default nameserver in
/etc/resolv.conf and make it immutable, which router I think is running
dnsmasq, so if the name isn't cached there, dnsmasq forwards the request
to my isp's server which is supposedly up to date. I can ping any named
& registered site on this ball of rock and water, usually in less than
30 milliseconds unless its to Ulan Bator. IF I can prevent NM and avahi
from assigning a totally bogus 169. route, it just works. Until that
stops, neither is welcome for the initial install on my premises.
Once I have networking working, then cups might need avahi. but _NOT_
before the rest of my network is up and running. And every machine on my
local net can browse the world with FF.
So please tell me again what NM is supposed to do for /me/?
Thank you.
There might be better ways with NM to manually specify your dns server.
Each network connection stanza can be individually configured based on your
location requirements. I would look into the documentation to solve the
issue the "NM way" and not come up with some hack and then fight the NM.
-H
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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