gene heskett wrote: >songbird wrote: ... >> man journald.conf... > > I've looked at that, even looked at the file. It is all systemd > related, no mention of user stuffs. Its as if a 3 meter tall board > fence has been built around the systemd stuff that user apps can't get thru.
no, i was just pointing out that i find the combined logs of systemd a lot easier to deal with as root instead of trying to look at them as a user and having them broken apart. for a simple system that i run it makes little sense to complicate things by having separate logs in systemd journal. > Glaringly missing is anything related to something the user might want > to do. So where is an equal facility for user stuffs? Someplace where > an AppImage looking for a missing dependency might express its > displeasure at not finding everything it needs? i'm light years behind App[Anything]. once you mix up what a system is doing then that adds yet more complexity which like i mentioned above i tend to not do if i can help it. IMO once you've started installing things from a vendor's repository you've then got to figure out how that integrates or not with your package management system. the most of that which i do here is in Python and i use virtual environments to try to isolate the problem children to where i hope they won't mess up the rest of my Python install. so far that seems to be working as intended. i'm sorry i can't help much... songbird