On 7/27/23 03:28, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 07:08:35AM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote:
From: David Wright <deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2023 12:22:04 -0500
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On Mon 24 Jul 2023 at 15:52:38 (+0530), Susmita/Rajib wrote:
From: David Wright <deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 10:06:43 -0500
I'm not sure who you think the first and second parties are.
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I have considered myself as the 1st party. Debian universe as the 2nd
party and the rest as the 3rd party. So by my consideration, anything
'Python' outside of the Debian Universe is 3rd party. I have rarely
install software outside of the Debian Universe.
You are trying to create a stand alone Python script on Debian that
you can give to someone running Windows.
Python is an interpreted language - so that person will need a version
of Python on their machine to run your script. Python versions exist
for Windows but it will need to be installed there.
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I could have risked if a Debian system snapshot could be
saved and in case of any trouble, could be reverted back to.
Yes, a virtual environment (i.e., virtualisation) however is an idea
that could theoretically be looked into, but that would mean extra
system resources to be spent for it.
This is where terminology is not helpful. Python has the concept of
a virtual environment (venv) in which to run Python programs separately
from the Python installed as the system version - a very simple sandbox,
I think.
And there can be several of the venv's because they can be named, at
least I have done that on arm64 stuff to indpendently drive 2 3d
printers at the same time from one bananapi-m5. It works but does
stretch the bpi a bit.
I don't program in Python so I can't help much further but that's very
different from a full virtualised environment of a Linux machine - kvm / qemu
or similar - which is very different and mor resource hungry.
AIUI a standalone binary is bound to use more resources anyway,
because it duplicates some already supplied as part of the OS.
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A "standalone binary" in Python is a script relying on the interpreter
just as a script might rely on shell interpreter in Debian.
A virtualisation environment is huge in terms of memory, RAM, HDD or
CPU usages. But let us not discuss on this aspect presently. I want to
build a standalone binaries and give it to a kid who runs Doze. He
doesn't have 'python' environment installed. I am trying to assist
him.
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ยน As you later wrote: "something published as the Debian Wiki, Release
Notes, Debian GNU/Linux FAQ or other informative posts or webpages
that could help disseminate information about issues that matter."
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With very good wish, as ever,
Andy Cater
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Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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