On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 05:58:50AM -0400, songbird wrote: > Tixy wrote: > > On Sat, 2023-06-10 at 23:55 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > >> Debian's wiki says to use apt-get: > >> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade. Also see > >> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/uptodate.html . > >> > >> Maybe it's time for a complete refresh of those documents. > > > > Or maybe the wiki page should be deleted, or just say go RTFM, i.e. > > read the release notes for the release you want to upgrade to. > > except that is a misconception for those who are running > testing. we're not upgrading to a new release. > > > songbird >
Hi Songbird and all, I may go and have a crack at editing the wiki pages in a few minutes. Hint: Anybody with a wiki account can edit the wiki - it really is a wiki. Release names and codenames: This is a subject that has been fairly well explained over the years. Debian 1.0 never actually got released - someone took pre-release links and rebranded them as "Debian 1.0" for a CD release. At that time, Debian took on the idea of release names to stop this happening again. If you follow the release name in your /etc/apt/sources.list it will follow a release from testing -> stable -> oldstable -> oldoldstable. If you track "testing" (something which has been deprecated for a while) then you must expect that it will change very unexpectedly on a release and then large changes immediately after as everything else catches up with being unfrozen. Unstable is _always_ sid - the character in Toy Story who breaks things - and you must expect major churn and random changes at short notice. All best as ever, Andy Cater
