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On 11 Jul 2022, 01:31, at 01:31, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: >Subject: (No subject) > >debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2022 : Issue 584 > >Today's Topics: >Re: Debian 11: MTA Exim4 not listeni [ "Gareth Evans" ><donotspam@fastmail. ] >Re: Debian 11: MTA Exim4 not listeni [ Greg Wooledge ><g...@wooledge.org> ] >Re: apt won't remove/ purge installe [ Tom Browder ><tom.brow...@gmail.com> ] > How can I find out why apt-get is ke [ L L <rotgo54...@gmail.com> ] >Re: apt won't remove/ purge installe [ Morgan Read ><mst...@read.org.nz> ] >What package I can find aclocal in? [ Igor Korot <ikoro...@gmail.com> >] >Re: apt won't remove/ purge installe [ Morgan Read ><mst...@read.org.nz> ] >Re: Debian 11: How to disable IPv6 [ Andy Smith ><a...@strugglers.net> ] >Re: Debian 11: How to disable IPv6 [ Andy Smith ><a...@strugglers.net> ] >Re: What package I can find aclocal [ Greg Wooledge ><g...@wooledge.org> ] >Re: What package I can find aclocal [ Andy Smith ><a...@strugglers.net> ] >Re: What package I can find aclocal [ Igor Korot <ikoro...@gmail.com> >] >Re: What package I can find aclocal [ Igor Korot <ikoro...@gmail.com> >] >Re: What package I can find aclocal [ Andy Smith ><a...@strugglers.net> ] >Re: What package I can find aclocal [ Igor Korot <ikoro...@gmail.com> >] >libpq-dev package [ Igor Korot <ikoro...@gmail.com> >] >Re: libpq-dev package [ Andy Smith ><a...@strugglers.net> ] > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Gareth Evans <donots...@fastmail.fm> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Sent: Sun Jul 10 22:57:40 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: Re: Debian 11: MTA Exim4 not listening to fetchmail > >On Sun 10 Jul 2022, at 18:28, Greg Wooledge <g...@wooledge.org> wrote: > >> Mine contains these lines: >> >> unicorn:~$ grep ::1 /etc/hosts >> ::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback >> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes >> >> They were put there by Debian. I didn't touch them. > >[I got the ::1 and localhost the wrong way around in my earlier reply.] > > >$ sudo fuser 25/tcp >25/tcp: 3778 > >$ ps -p 3778 -o comm= >exim4 > >$ cat /etc/hosts >127.0.0.1 localhost >127.0.0.1 hostname >::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback >ff02::1 ip6-allnodes >ff02::2 ip6-allrouters > >$ telnet localhost 25 >Trying ::1... >Connected to localhost. > >$ sudo ss -lnt | grep :25 >LISTEN 0 20 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* >LISTEN 0 20 [::1]:25 [::]:* > > >$ sudo reboot >- set boot arg ipv6.disable=1 >- NB ipv6 addresses still in /etc/hosts > >$ telnet localhost 25 >Trying 127.0.0.1... >Trying ::1... >telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Address family not supported >by protocol > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >$ sudo ss -lnt | grep :25 >$ > > >Just out of interest: > >Now, comment out ipv6 in /etc/hosts > >$ cat /etc/hosts >127.0.0.1 localhost >127.0.0.1 hostname >#::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback >#ff02::1 ip6-allnodes >#ff02::2 ip6-allrouters > > >$ sudo reboot >- set boot arg ipv6.disable=1 > >$ telnet localhost 25 >Trying 127.0.0.1... >telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ??? >$ sudo nft list ruleset >$ > >$ ss -lnt | grep :25 >$ > >$ ps -aux | grep exim >gives only "grep exim" - exim4 is not running > >Does exim4 require ipv6? > >I can't find any obvious such config with > >sudo grep -Ri ipv6 /etc/exim4 >sudo grep -Ri ip6 /etc/exim4 >etc. etc. > > >In Roger's case, telnet seems to be outputting the same error as exim4 >is panic logging, which occurs when ipv6 is disabled and "::1 ..." >exists in /etc/hosts. Coincidence? > >"When certain serious errors occur, Exim writes entries to its panic >log. If the error is sufficiently disastrous, Exim bombs out >afterwards" >https://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-log_files.html > >This suggests exim4 may not be listening having written to the panic >log even if my ipv6 requirement is the result of some oddity. > >Again: > >On Sun 10 Jul 2022, at 15:38, Roger Price <deb...@rogerprice.org> >wrote: >> I removed the ipv6.disable=1 and rebooted, but this made no >difference. > >IIUC, without a > >$ sudo update-grub > >before reboot, ipv6 is still disabled, assuming Roger described exactly >what he did there. > >Does this seem a reasonable assessment? > >Best wishes, >Gareth > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Greg Wooledge <g...@wooledge.org> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Sent: Sun Jul 10 23:05:45 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: Re: Debian 11: MTA Exim4 not listening to fetchmail > >On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 10:57:40PM +0100, Gareth Evans wrote: >> $ sudo reboot >> - set boot arg ipv6.disable=1 >> - NB ipv6 addresses still in /etc/hosts >> >> $ telnet localhost 25 >> Trying 127.0.0.1... >> Trying ::1... >> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Address family not >supported by protocol >> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> $ sudo ss -lnt | grep :25 >> $ > >> Does exim4 require ipv6? > >Check its log file to be sure. The snippet you posted earlier seems >to say that it really does want to bind to loopback on both IPv4 and >IPv6. > >Letting it do so seems like the path of least resistance. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Tom Browder <tom.brow...@gmail.com> >To: Morgan Read <mst...@read.org.nz> >Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Sent: Sun Jul 10 23:16:40 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: Re: apt won't remove/ purge installed package... > >On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 15:48 Morgan Read <mst...@read.org.nz> wrote: > >> I attempted to install firewalld and firewall-config with ufw >installed >> - perhaps not the wisest of moves - but, `apt install firewalld >> firewall-config` ran anyway, and then hung, together with the whole >> system and nil ssh access. > > >I had a similar situation, but I was able to a normal reboot and then >do >some cleanup because, fortunately, I had desktop access to that server. >Do >you? > >-Tom > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: L L <rotgo54...@gmail.com> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Sent: Sun Jul 10 23:24:11 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: How can I find out why apt-get is keeping a package back? > >How can I find out why apt-get is keeping a package back? > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Morgan Read <mst...@read.org.nz> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Sent: Sun Jul 10 23:07:57 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: Re: apt won't remove/ purge installed package... > >On 10/07/2022 9:50 pm, Morgan Read wrote: >> I attempted to install firewalld and firewall-config with ufw >installed >> - perhaps not the wisest of moves - but, `apt install firewalld >> firewall-config` ran anyway, and then hung, together with the whole >> system and nil ssh access. >> >> I'm now thrashing about in a rescue image with the system mounted on >/mnt : >> ``` >> [RESCUE] root@vps-2493e43e:~ $ apt -o Dir=/mnt list firewalld >> firewall-config >> Listing... Done >> firewall-config/stable,now 0.9.3-2 all [installed] >> firewalld/stable,now 0.9.3-2 all [installed] >> [RESCUE] root@vps-2493e43e:~ $ apt -o Dir=/mnt purge firewalld >> firewall-config >... > >> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove firewall-config which isn't > >> installed >> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove firewalld which isn't >installed >... >> Attempts at correction have included: >> rm /mnt/var/cache/apt/*pkgcache.bin >> apt-cache -o Dir=/mnt gencaches >> dpkg --root=/mnt --update-avail >> dpkg --root=/mnt --configure -a > > >After a number of iterations of these instructions: >https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-broken-packages-ubuntu/ >firewalld and its dependencies seem to be where they should be: >``` >[RESCUE] root@vps-2493e43e:~ $ apt -o Dir=/mnt list firewalld >firewall-config gir1.2-atk-1.0 gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 gir1.2-gtk-3.0 >gir1.2-harfbuzz-0.0 gir1.2-nm-1.0 gir1.2-pango-1.0 ipset libipset13 >libnftables1 libpangoxft-1.0-0 libxft2 python3-decorator >python3-firewall python3-nftables python3-selinux python3-slip >python3-slip-dbus >Listing... Done >firewall-config/stable 0.9.3-2 all >firewalld/stable 0.9.3-2 all >gir1.2-atk-1.0/stable 2.36.0-2 amd64 >gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0/stable 2.42.2+dfsg-1 amd64 >gir1.2-gtk-3.0/stable 3.24.24-4+deb11u2 amd64 >gir1.2-harfbuzz-0.0/stable 2.7.4-1 amd64 >gir1.2-nm-1.0/stable 1.30.6-1+deb11u1 amd64 >gir1.2-pango-1.0/stable 1.46.2-3 amd64 >ipset/stable 7.10-1 amd64 >libipset13/stable 7.10-1 amd64 >libnftables1/stable 0.9.8-3.1 amd64 >libpangoxft-1.0-0/stable 1.46.2-3 amd64 >libxft2/stable 2.3.2-2 amd64 >python3-decorator/stable 4.4.2-2 all >python3-firewall/stable 0.9.3-2 all >python3-nftables/stable 0.9.8-3.1 amd64 >python3-selinux/stable 3.1-3 amd64 >python3-slip-dbus/stable 0.6.5-2 all >python3-slip/stable 0.6.5-2 all >[RESCUE] root@vps-2493e43e:~ $ >``` >Thx > >-- >Morgan Read >Grande Bretagne >Em: <email:mstuffATreadDOTorgDOTnz> > >Confused about DRM? >Get all the info you need at: ><http://drm.info/> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Igor Korot <ikoro...@gmail.com> >To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> >Sent: Sun Jul 10 23:43:33 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: What package I can find aclocal in? > >Hi, >What package can I find aclocal in? >I need to set up my autotools project in the newly installed Debian.. > >Thank you. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Morgan Read <mst...@read.org.nz> >To: Tom Browder <tom.brow...@gmail.com> >Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Sent: Sun Jul 10 23:27:40 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: Re: apt won't remove/ purge installed package... > >On 10/07/2022 11:16 pm, Tom Browder wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 15:48 Morgan Read <mst...@read.org.nz >> <mailto:mst...@read.org.nz>> wrote: >> >> I attempted to install firewalld and firewall-config with ufw >installed >> - perhaps not the wisest of moves - but, `apt install firewalld >> firewall-config` ran anyway, and then hung, together with the >whole >> system and nil ssh access. >> >> >> I had a similar situation, but I was able to a normal reboot and then >do >> some cleanup because, fortunately, I had desktop access to that >server. >> Do you? >Thanks for coming back to me Tom, nope! My machine is not handy - but, > >I think our messages have crossed and after a fair bit of tail chasing >it seems to be back up. >Thx >M > >-- >Morgan Read (It/Its) > >Grande Bretagne >Em: <email:mstuffATreadDOTorgDOTnz> > >Confused about DRM? >Get all the info you need at: ><http://drm.info/> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Andy Smith <a...@strugglers.net> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Sent: Sun Jul 10 23:48:10 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: Re: Debian 11: How to disable IPv6 > >Hi Gene, > >Before we go any further let's just remember that this thread was >started by someone wanting to disable IPv6 for no specific reason. >They had decided they needed to do so to fix some problem they were >having, when in fact they had ALREADY disabled IPv6, so there is no >possibility whatsoever that IPv6 was responsible for whatever >problem they were seeing. > >This kind of mindset is counter productive, even if you have found a >brother in IPv6-hating arms. > >Your advocacy of disabling IPv6 "just because" is wrong on every >level; it is necessary in virtually no circumstance¹. But you're >also doing it on a thread which conclusively has nothing to do with >IPv6. Hopefully you can see why this seems like a bit of a theme >with you. > >On Sat, Jul 09, 2022 at 03:59:48PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: >> Andy, you obviously don't live in ipv4 only territory. > >I travel a lot so am often on networks with no external IPv6. >Nothing breaks for me. > >> Until n-m or whatever gets trained to auto switch to ipv4 if 6 >> fails, > >Nothing should break when there is no IPv6 connectivity. If it does, >you almost certainly have something misconfigured. You have spent a >lot of time telling this list how you disable IPv6 but have never >managed to demonstrate an actual problem that required you to do >so. > >> Until such time as our local ISP's offer it, we have no choice but >> to disable it. It really is that simple. > >Things can seem very simple when you have a completely incorrect >understanding. > >I started typing this email in a client's house on a network I don't >control, that does not have IPv6. My laptop has no special >configuration to either make IPv6 work nor to disable it. Since then >I returned home, to my network which does have IPv6, and carried on >typing the email. > >This is the default behaviour of Linux for a decade or more. You are >very unlikely to have to change any setting to have things work this >way. It really is that simple. > >Of course, on your systems which will stay on your network, with an >Internet service provider that does not offer IPv6, there may be >very little point to having IPv6 be a thing. You're probably losing >very little by disabling it². But your claims that it routinely >breaks things or causes problems when there's no external IPv6 >connectivity are just wrong. This is all designed to be used when >it's available and not really be noticed either way. > >Cheers, >Andy > >¹ It is certainly possible for some site's IPv6 to break while its > IPv4 has not, and it's possible for that situation to stay in > effect longer because fewer people use IPv6, so it can go on for > longer before it's noticed. > > For many years web browsers have used a thing called Happy > Eyeballs where they try both v6 and v4 and use the one that works > first/better, so it has to be a quite specific failure mode to > make just v6 bad. But it can happen. > > Similarly as another poster pointed out, all software can have > bugs, and sometimes some specific thing just doesn't behave > correctly over IPv6. > > So I can't say it NEVER EVER breaks in ANY way for ANYONE, but > what I can say is that it's almost always a bad idea to disable it > "just because", and neither this thread nor anything you have ever > posted here has described a specific instance where IPv6 broke > anything. > > If you're going to dispute this, it would be good to come up with > a specific reproducible example. I'm not saying such examples > don't exist - they've happened to me. But if it does happen then > we can help work out how to fix it without just disabling IPv6. > > Otherwise I'm afraid your claims about IPv6 so far have been quite > bizarre, on the level of "IPv6 ate my homework" or "my father was > killed by a 128-bit integer", and can't be taken seriously. > >² Not nothing though. At some point your ISP might enable IPv6 or > you might change to one that does, at which point if you had not > taken steps to disable it, your machines would start using it > without you noticing. There would be some advantages to that > happening, though usually not big ones. > >-- >https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Andy Smith <a...@strugglers.net> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Sent: Sun Jul 10 23:58:44 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: Re: Debian 11: How to disable IPv6 > >Hi Charles, > >On Sat, Jul 09, 2022 at 06:51:22PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: >> it is up to you to housebreak your applications to use IPv4 first. > >If you find yourself having to do this, something is probably >broken. Broken things do exist, but it is really quite rare. What >you've written here makes it seem more like a given that everyone >will face problems. In reality most people don't even notice, which >is how it's designed to work. > >Amazon, Facebook and Google all have IPv6 addresses for all their >various Internet properties. If there were any widespread issue with >software on v4-only networks getting v6 DNS answers then they would >not do this. > >> I do it in part by using my own resolver, BIND9, and having it >> return only IPv4 addresses. > >What application do you have where this is necessary? This is a bug >because when an application asks for DNS records for foo.example.com >it can get back all sorts of records besides 'A' (IPv4 address), >most of which have nothing to do with IPv6. So anything that >complains that it got an 'AAAA' record (IPv6 address) as well as an >'A' record is really very broken. > >If we dig into this I think it's likely we'll find this is not >necessary and at worst a misconfiguration exists somewhere else. > >DNS is designed to work on IPv4-only networks. > >Cheers, >Andy > >-- >https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Greg Wooledge <g...@wooledge.org> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Sent: Mon Jul 11 00:10:22 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: Re: What package I can find aclocal in? > >On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 05:43:33PM -0500, Igor Korot wrote: >> What package can I find aclocal in? >> I need to set up my autotools project in the newly installed Debian.. > >How to find out what package a file is in: > >1) Use http://packages.debian.org/ to search for the file by name. > >2) Use apt-file to search a local copy of the package file lists. > >3) Use "apt search" (or "apt-cache search") with cleverly chosen >keywords > and try to filter the results. This is getting harder and harder, as > the number of packages grows. > >4) Make reasonable guesses about what you *think* the package name >should > be, and try installing those. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Andy Smith <a...@strugglers.net> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Sent: Mon Jul 11 00:17:14 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: Re: What package I can find aclocal in? > >Hello, > >On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 05:43:33PM -0500, Igor Korot wrote: >> What package can I find aclocal in? > >$ apt-file search bin/aclocal >automake: /usr/bin/aclocal-1.16 >automake1.11: /usr/bin/aclocal-1.11 > >Cheers, >Andy > >-- >https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Igor Korot <ikoro...@gmail.com> >To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> >Sent: Mon Jul 11 00:21:51 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: Re: What package I can find aclocal in? > >Hi, > >On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 6:10 PM Greg Wooledge <g...@wooledge.org> >wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 05:43:33PM -0500, Igor Korot wrote: >> > What package can I find aclocal in? >> > I need to set up my autotools project in the newly installed >Debian.. >> >> How to find out what package a file is in: >> >> 1) Use http://packages.debian.org/ to search for the file by name. > >Followed the link. >Scrolled to the section "Search the contents of packages" >Entered "aclocal" and selected second option >Got 1 result - bash-completion > >I don't thin k this is the one. > >And I presume all others will give the same name, so stop right there. > >Thank you. > >> >> 2) Use apt-file to search a local copy of the package file lists. >> >> 3) Use "apt search" (or "apt-cache search") with cleverly chosen >keywords >> and try to filter the results. This is getting harder and harder, >as >> the number of packages grows. >> >> 4) Make reasonable guesses about what you *think* the package name >should >> be, and try installing those. >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Igor Korot <ikoro...@gmail.com> >To: Andy Smith <a...@strugglers.net> >Cc: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> >Sent: Mon Jul 11 00:24:16 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: Re: What package I can find aclocal in? > >Hi, >Thank you for the info. > >On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 6:17 PM Andy Smith <a...@strugglers.net> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 05:43:33PM -0500, Igor Korot wrote: >> > What package can I find aclocal in? >> >> $ apt-file search bin/aclocal >> automake: /usr/bin/aclocal-1.16 >> automake1.11: /usr/bin/aclocal-1.11 > >Trying to guess I found the package autotools-dev, but that was not it. > >Should I keep it? >What does it contain? > >Thank you > >> >> Cheers, >> Andy >> >> -- >> https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Andy Smith <a...@strugglers.net> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Sent: Mon Jul 11 00:33:02 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: Re: What package I can find aclocal in? > >Hello, > >On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 06:24:16PM -0500, Igor Korot wrote: >> Trying to guess I found the package autotools-dev, but that was not >it. >> >> Should I keep it? > >I don't know. Perhaps remove it and install it again later if you >find you have the need. > >> What does it contain? > >$ apt show autotools-dev >$ dpkg -L autotools-dev > >I would suggest that if you intend to develop software on Debian >then you might want to become more familiar with using Debian's >package managers (particularly "apt" and "dpkg") to answer these >very basic questions. > >Start here: > > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html > >Cheers, >Andy > >-- >https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Igor Korot <ikoro...@gmail.com> >To: Andy Smith <a...@strugglers.net> >Cc: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> >Sent: Mon Jul 11 00:46:08 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: Re: What package I can find aclocal in? > >Hi, > >On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 6:33 PM Andy Smith <a...@strugglers.net> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 06:24:16PM -0500, Igor Korot wrote: >> > Trying to guess I found the package autotools-dev, but that was not >it. >> > >> > Should I keep it? >> >> I don't know. Perhaps remove it and install it again later if you >> find you have the need. >> >> > What does it contain? >> >> $ apt show autotools-dev >> $ dpkg -L autotools-dev >> >> I would suggest that if you intend to develop software on Debian >> then you might want to become more familiar with using Debian's >> package managers (particularly "apt" and "dpkg") to answer these >> very basic questions. > >Thx for the help. >No, I don't intend to use Debian for development. >However, I need some help and the person I asked use Debian. > >So I installed Debian in the VM and am trying to set up an environment >and make instructions on how to create a program. > >For my development I use Gentoo which has everything I need from the >start up. >No need to install gcc and then guess which package all this different >tools belongs to >it's already provided by the system. > >Thank you. > > >> >> Start here: >> >> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html >> >> Cheers, >> Andy >> >> -- >> https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Igor Korot <ikoro...@gmail.com> >To: Debian Users <debian-user@lists.debian.org> >Sent: Mon Jul 11 01:19:08 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: libpq-dev package > >Hi, >I figured out that the libpq package is called postgresql-client. > >However it looks like there is no postgresql-client-dev package? > >Trying to compile my program it fails by not finding the >pg-config script and libpq-fe.h file. > >Thank you. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: Andy Smith <a...@strugglers.net> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Sent: Mon Jul 11 01:28:09 GMT+01:00 2022 >Subject: Re: libpq-dev package > >Hello, > >On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 07:19:08PM -0500, Igor Korot wrote: >> Trying to compile my program it fails by not finding the >> pg-config script and libpq-fe.h file. > >You were already shown apt-file. > >Regards, >Andy > >-- >https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
