On Fri 17 Jun 2022, at 20:00, Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote: > On Fri 17 Jun 2022 at 16:24:54 +0100, Gareth Evans wrote: > >> Is there a limit for message size on debian-user? >> >> I can't find any such info on >> >> https://lists.debian.org/ >> >> https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ >> >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ >> >> but a couple of recent large-ish messages (one ~270K with two >> screenshots, one 70K with log output) have neither got through nor >> bounced back. >> >> It would be helpful to know what it is if there is one. > > Don't expect Listmaster to rush here and tell us :), > > According to mutt, one of the mails you sent earlier today is 70K > in size: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2022/06/msg00586.html > > Do you hear anyone complaining? You did not. The bandwidth usage is > low and time to download it is minuscule. The wheels are greased in > -user. > > However, you cheated and put a log file inline. Naughty :). Good > sense reigns in -user, however, so no one begrudges it. >
> You know that attachments of ~270K and 70K do not get through. For the record, I had thought the log excerpts in the 70K email were likely to be just about acceptable inline - there was no attempt to send a ~70K attachment. Perhaps there should (or shouldn't) have been. I would find it difficult to consider 70K "large". With no guidance on the issues in eg monthly FAQ, this creates ambiguity and uncertainty. There was quite a delay in both the 70K email and the message size limit question getting back to me, such that I thought both may have been dropped or held - first the former, hence the latter, and then still an unusually long wait. But such is email sometimes. The lack of dropped/held feedback [1] (if messages even are held) along with ambiguity around message/attachment sizes, makes it difficult to judge what to do and when, if anything. Best wishes, Gareth [1] "Another known limitation in our mailing list software is that most rejected e-mails get silently dropped, so the user has no real indication on what went wrong." https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ > Try > ~50K next time and be aware that compression with gzip or xz is a > option. Text files compress well. > > If 50K is rejected, no harm is done. Try again to find the upper > limit. > > Attacments to a mailing list like -user are an efficient us of its > services. Ephemeral info on other sites isn't of any value to users > in the future. > > -- > Brian.
