On 15/04/2022 11:14, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Thanks for your reply, I appreciate your patience.
- At the "low level": you are talking about "process trees". Perhaps that's the problem. Perhaps, towards the OOM score, all those processes count as individual processes.
Each 8GB individual process should be killed absolutely first, not entire KDE desktop and Xorg. That's obvious.
Note that the OOM killer is just the last straw the system grabs to try to avoid sinking. Perhaps it's the wrong instrument for your case and you need to look into limits, or cgroup memory policies.
I look from desktop perspective. OS (Linux) runs my desktop and manage all programs. When one programs eats too much memory, program gets killed. That is default behaviour or any mature operating system, even in Windows 2000 era we had this. I don't understand why Linux, using all its tools available to itself, is not handling this. I highlight tools available to it, not to me - I should not need to know which internal Linux tool kills misbehaving programs and how it works to use my desktop.
- At the "higher level": "you see how things are broken" for you. You are still (in my opinion) committing the error of generalising your problem /before/ you have spent enough time investigating it. That might make it more difficult finding a satisfying solution :-)
Yes, I look absolutely from higher, desktop level. Current defaults are broken. OOM is not working, and it's killing entire system instead of one offending application. That's a bug.
Plus, don't assume random kernel programmers aren't smart. They usually are. And they usually spend quite a bit of effort until a patch of this kind goes in.
Of course they are very smart. However, in this case, and in hundreds of similar cases which are being reported as bugs every year, defaults, or other mechanisms, needs to be adjusted so Denial of Service is not happening when application takes all memory. Right now, that is exactly what's happening. System-wide DoS in one second, entire system nuked and halted when one Wine application claims too much memory.
Cheers
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