On Thu 24 Feb 2022 at 14:39:55 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:08:26 PM EST Brian wrote: > > On Wed 23 Feb 2022 at 18:44:37 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > > [...[ > > > > > With all the crash and burn sessions I've had with bullseye, I'd have > > > to go get the drivers anew from Brother if cups-everywhere can't do > > > it. > > It is possible it may yet come to that. > > > > > Is that what I have to do for this printer? FWIW No Brother printers > > > show up at all in the ppd selection menu. > > > > > > Might be related: > > > sane-find-scanner, run as root, finds the scanner in this MFC at: > > > > > > found USB scanner (vendor=0x04f9 [Brother], product=0x02f5 > > > [MFC-J6920DW]) at libusb:003:005 > > > > > > but xsane can't find it. So both the printer and the scanner are on > > > the injured list. > > > > Let's put scanning on one side for the time being. > > > > 1. Read the Release Notes for Debian 11. > > > > 2. Disconnect fro USB. It complicates matters. > > > I would much rather the installer was taught to iterrogate whats beyond > an fdti serial adaptor, they are used to drive far more than braille > interfaces, or make the installer as the user if they WANT the speech > dispatcher and brltty. I don't, and the only way I've found to control > all that BS is to edit their configs to send their screaming fits aboiut > not finding brltty, to /dev/null. Blaming the user for not disconnecting > a usb tree that looks like a weeping willow is at best poor form. > > Then refusing to advise that user howe to legally uniinstall that crap > just frosts the cake. Fix the damned installer. > > As for my printer, I'll install the Brother drivers, they've Just Worked > for over a decade now. > > > 3. Give > > avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp > > avahi-browse -rt _uscan._tcp > > driverless > > And what will that do, except further screw things up. > > Avahi is another of those unwanted "helpers". I've had to disable or > uninstal it since wheezy because it insists on overwriteing the route to > the network with bogus 169.xx.yy.zz numbers. > > > 4. avahi-browse is in the avahi-utils package. > > And have it wreck this installs host file based network? I think not. > > I originally asked how to get rid of brltty. And was ignored. No one has > suggested a course of action except yet anothr install AFTER gutting the > system of usb which would include the keyboard and mouse. > > Stop ignoring the users complaints and fix the installer, at the very > least by asking the user if he wants it, and don't install it if he says > no. I have no problem with aiding the blind, but make even him confirm he > wants it before its made a permanent part of the install. > > Currently, if its enabled at install, and removed 30 minutes later, the > system stops forever about 10 seconds into a reboot because it can't find > it, but thats without any sign of a log saying why it won't reboot. I > did 4 installs proving that boot stall was that once I managed at get 4 > out of 2+2. You may take it that yes, I'm unhappy. This was far more > annoying than it was years ago when I installed stretch. I had forgotten > about that, but that didn't lead to 15 or 20 reinstalls like this did > either. > > No Cheers, Gene Heskett. > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. > - Louis D. Brandeis > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
Years ago I resolved never to get involved with your printing syste. I broke that resolution today because I thought you really needed help. One lives and learns. Your response has been the worst I have ever met from any user. It does not addresss a single requested point for information. The questions have been completely ignored. Basically, you haven't a clue what you are doing regarding printing, so you construct a narrative to pull the wool over users' eyes. This is your standard technique. The response is also ill-informed, technically deficient, ignorent of what is invlved on bullseye and dismissive. In short, it displays an uderstanding of our printing system that is pathetic. On the bright side: Your self-serving response makes you eligible for the Piss Artist of the Year award. -- Brian.
