On Thu 24 Feb 2022 at 18:32:47 (+0000), L Dimov wrote: > On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 01:12:48 PM EST, David Wright > <deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote: > > On Thu 24 Feb 2022 at 17:50:28 (+0000), L Dimov wrote: > > > On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 12:39:27 PM EST, Greg Wooledge > > > <g...@wooledge.org> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 05:32:45PM +0000, L Dimov wrote: > > > > > Is it normal that for a while now, maybe 2 or so weeks, these 17 > > > > > packages are continuing to be kept back? I am on Debian 11 Bullseye > > > > > stable with only main repositories. > > > > > > > > > > The following packages have been kept back: > > > > > gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0 gir1.2-webkit2-4.0 > > > > > libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 libreoffice libreoffice-base > > > > > libreoffice-base-core > > > > > libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common > > > > > libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress libreoffice-math > > > > > libreoffice-writer libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 linux-image-amd64 > > > > > python3-uno > > > > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 17 not upgraded. > > > > > > > > > What command are you typing to get this result? If you're using > > > > "apt-get upgrade", try "apt-get dist-upgrade" instead, or if you prefer, > > > > "apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade". > > > I do indeed use apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, and I am aware that > > > there are ways I can force them to upgrade, but should I? > > > > apt-get is a good tool to use, but only if you learn how > > to use it effectively. You're not going to "force" anything. > > You merely have to allow libopengl0 to be installed so that > > libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 and libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 can be > > upgraded. > > In that case, should I be running the dist-upgrade every time I encounter > such the issue of packages being kept back? > Here is the output from apt-get dist-upgrade by the way: > > The following NEW packages will be installed: libabsl20200923 libopengl0 > linux-image-5.10.0-11-amd64 > The following packages will be upgraded: > gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0 gir1.2-webkit2-4.0 libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 > libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core > libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common > libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress libreoffice-math > libreoffice-writer libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 linux-image-amd64 python3-uno > 17 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 0 B/163 MB of archives. > After this operation, 312 MB of additional disk space will be used. > Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
As you and I both install the generic kernel linux-image-amd64, we would expect to have to use apt-get dist-upgrade whenever there's a new kernel version (because a version number is included in the package name, so it's a "new" package). The other two are more unusual; so for example I have only needed dist-upgrade once in two years on this buster system, last June. I've just installed libopengl0 on my bullseye, but didn't require libabsl20200923, perhaps (at first glance) because I don't have those gir1.2* packages shown above. But yes, always check with dist-upgrade whenever packages are held back, and inspect the output. And BTW, the more frequently you upgrade your system, the lower the probability that you will hit three of these occurrences at the same time. (The kernel upgrade was available before the end of January.) Cheers, David.
