On 2022-01-23 08:19, deloptes wrote:
Marco Möller wrote:
I feel that a concise statement from Debian insiders would gain a lot
to
not provoke avoidable discussions and would right away defeat heat
given
off obstructively.
As Thomas pointed out, there are hundreds of posts from years old
discussions which appear to be the prelude to the current situation.
Some of these public discussions have been quite controversial, partly
also questioning if community processes are always taking place
sufficiently transparent. Currently I find only a public statement
from
one party. This could harm the Debian project. Some concise statement
from somebody in the Debian project with insights into the issue could
prevent Debian from bad repute by declassifying which are the
positions
of the present disagreement.
I am not aware of the current problem, but my personal observation is
that
there are more often such conflicts and I expect the number to rise in
future.
According my observation the problem is in lack of education in the
fields
of logic and rhetoric. The new generation (called milenials or gen Z or
whatever) mostly brainwashed to the political left, but I do not
exclude
also the once to the right, are not able to have a meaningful debate.
So what happens - again this is my personal opinion - they are not able
to
have a meaningful conversation over an issue and can not solve
conflicts.
Thus the only way is to break the communication. Sadly this is
observable
also in politics and I hope we do not end up in nuclear war.
The first such experience I had was exactly the KDE project, when it
released version 4. It was not possible to convince the developers that
we
need a working desktop and not just shiny one. So I had to abandon KDE.
Since then I had this experience in many different situations
especially
with younger people. It is very sad! Again I see this problem mainly in
the
education, but it could have also relation to the family a person was
raised in.
All together it is sad that conflicts are not solved for one or another
reason.
This is probably an accurate observation.
I was a little concerned about the direction of travel when that
software got removed from the repository because of variable names.
mick
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