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I *am* an xfce4 user. I use the terminal emulator most of the time. I asked for a terminal emulator at installation, and I got lxterminal. Works good. The scroll bar is over on the right, where it's supposed to be. Real thin, but it's there. I didn't know about the right-click paste, but there's a nice one in the Edit menu. The only trouble I've had with it is that the items in the menus have all been changed from the *nix commands. There's a SHIFT in front of God's command set. I just use the menus. -- Glenn English -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: ProtonMail wsBzBAEBCAAGBQJh2KLbACEJEJ/XhjGCrIwyFiEELKJzD0JScCVjQA2Xn9eG MYKsjDKJewgAoG2UotRsEYwUCYHdREwt8uDNnWT7QiaeOiTMnWmEIAql1zpc +1nKGJhLu+n5yHYCs3BnU8g0epGDPOKwRutsL6jlL5BI97Icr83tVHRrDFDL n+I3j0y9mWaYOrHwjzq/9/sX3vO4c7WxtX9O6ROAvQv+JIl9LNnimYhPyseV ubFOpAZWoagAuYokXPqqKV5TqRn0bwNVWLGsxDxXBYK0qEQzdY+NJ2C3OBJc g8KcFrrNc3vzfu3nSlHn9kiown4YKKw371AVj4HE40Cwncm8RChQJrvLATSU aOGh5JIIwNrSAa/5NzaVGtvqdMd/XocujsiLRtf/pUaqZCao0p1w7w== =1yZy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----