On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 06:06:53PM +0000, Brian wrote: > On Sun 21 Nov 2021 at 17:53:57 +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 05:46:13PM +0000, Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 21 Nov 2021 at 16:30:06 +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 05:38:56PM +0300, John Berden wrote: > > > > > Hi all! > > > > > > > > > > I have Acer Nitra 5 laptop with the following parameters: > > > > > Six-core Intel i5-11400H > > > > > System board chipset Intel Tiger Point HM570, Intel Tiger Lake-H > > > > > DIMM1: Samsung M471A1K43EB1-CWE > > > > > DIMM3: Samsung M471A1K43EB1-CWE > > > > > Integrated video Intel(R) UHD Graphics > > > > > Discrete video NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Ti Laptop GPU > > > > > > > > > > Can I embed Drivers for these devices to Debian installer? > > > > > > If you really mean drivers (and not firmware) I think the answer is > > > "no". At least not easily. > > > > > > > > Or at least how can I embed a WiFi driver? > > > > > I use Firmware-11.1.0-AMD64-DVD-1.Iso > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi John, > > > > > > > > Use the firmware .iso you have to install Debian. At the point at which > > > > you need firmware, the installer should supply it. > > > > > > Firmware for network devices only, I believe. > > > > > > > If you have an Ethernet port and can used a wired interface to bootstrap > > > > installation do so. > > > > > > I took a quick look at the specs for this machine. It does not appear > > > to have an ethernet interface. > > > > > > > A complication is that this is a gaming laptop with two video displays. > > > > If you wish to use both, then there are difficulties in doing so. > > > > > > > > I would suggest booting from the isntaller and doing an expert install. > > > > > > I agee with that. > > > > > > > Stop without installing any desktop - so unselect a Debian desktop. > > > > > > Normally I would agree with this too, but the lack of ethernet is likely > > > to lead to an issue with connectivity after first boot. See > > > > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=694068 > > >
In this _particular_ instance ideally no DE because of the problem of 2x video interfaces > > > > Complete the install as text only if you can. > > > > > > > > Decide whether you want to use the proprietary Nvidia drivers or not. > > > > > > > > Install the bumblebee utilities as appropriate > > > > > > > > If using the Nvidia propriatary drivers, install the nvidia-driver > > > > utilities > > > > as prompted. > > > > > > > > Once that's done: reboot. > > > > > > > > Only at that point install a desktop using tasksel as root/root > > > > equivalent. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps, I don't particularly have a gaming laptop to install > > > > on. > > > > > > -- > > > Brian. > > > > > > > No Ethernet means additional complications :) > > The particuler complication I mentioned only arises should a DE not be > installed. This has been recognised as a Debian hoop to jump through. > > > WiFi firmware - the nonfree firmware-iwlwifi probably - will be installed > > as part of the initial install - so you should have network connectivity > > for that at least. > > Assuming a wireless connection is established by the installer it will > remain available after first boot, irrespective of whether a DE is > installed or not. > > > I'd install Network Manager and nmtui to set up a minimal wireless interface > > thereafter. You can do that either by dropping to a shell in the initial > > install or by using the rescue mode of the installer to chroot to the > > installed > > system and go from there. > > Installing a DE will probably pull in network-manager. > See above: explicitly trying _not_ to install a DE until the video is configured. > > This is one of the reasons why I keep around a USB -> Ethernet adapter but > > I recognise that I'm an oddity here. > > Not a bad idea. Should it be necessary, though? > No - but for this sort of thing - or where the onboard wifi interface requires a driver to be built / downloaded - Broadcom and fwcutter, I'm looking at you - then this is the only way to get it all to work. [Have done this for Raspberry Pi boards without wifi and Ethernet in order to get the wifi drivers for a USB dongle to compile] All best, Andy Cater > -- > Brian. >
