<snip lots> Sorry about the thread but this is the first time I'm sending mail from my Debian box, and clicking the reply to at the bottom of the message in the Konqueror display didn't bring anything with it.
I have followed the earlier suggestions; adding the dialout group really helped, but ... As shown in the log excerpts below the non-root user can execute pon successfully only when plog is running in another window. I have no idea! syslog from execution by paul w/o plog running in other window Dec 26 12:39:00 paulsbox pppd[1891]: pppd 2.4.1 started by paul, uid 1000 Dec 26 12:39:01 paulsbox chat[1892]: abort on (BUSY) Dec 26 12:39:01 paulsbox chat[1892]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Dec 26 12:39:01 paulsbox chat[1892]: abort on (VOICE) Dec 26 12:39:01 paulsbox chat[1892]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Dec 26 12:39:01 paulsbox chat[1892]: abort on (NO DIAL TONE) Dec 26 12:39:01 paulsbox chat[1892]: abort on (NO ANSWER) Dec 26 12:39:01 paulsbox chat[1892]: abort on (DELAYED) Dec 26 12:39:01 paulsbox chat[1892]: send (ATZ^M) Dec 26 12:39:01 paulsbox chat[1892]: expect (OK) Dec 26 12:39:01 paulsbox chat[1892]: ^M Dec 26 12:39:01 paulsbox chat[1892]: OK Dec 26 12:39:01 paulsbox chat[1892]: -- got it Dec 26 12:39:01 paulsbox chat[1892]: send (ATDT3039544492^M) Dec 26 12:39:02 paulsbox chat[1892]: expect (CONNECT) Dec 26 12:39:02 paulsbox chat[1892]: ^M Dec 26 12:39:02 paulsbox chat[1892]: ATZ^M^M Dec 26 12:39:02 paulsbox chat[1892]: OK^M Dec 26 12:39:47 paulsbox chat[1892]: alarm Dec 26 12:39:47 paulsbox chat[1892]: Failed Dec 26 12:39:47 paulsbox pppd[1891]: Connect script failed Dec 26 12:39:48 paulsbox pppd[1891]: Exit. syslog from execution by paul with plog running in other window Dec 26 12:46:53 paulsbox pppd[1939]: pppd 2.4.1 started by paul, uid 1000 Dec 26 12:46:54 paulsbox chat[1940]: abort on (BUSY) Dec 26 12:46:54 paulsbox chat[1940]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Dec 26 12:46:54 paulsbox chat[1940]: abort on (VOICE) Dec 26 12:46:54 paulsbox chat[1940]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Dec 26 12:46:54 paulsbox chat[1940]: abort on (NO DIAL TONE) Dec 26 12:46:54 paulsbox chat[1940]: abort on (NO ANSWER) Dec 26 12:46:54 paulsbox chat[1940]: abort on (DELAYED) Dec 26 12:46:54 paulsbox chat[1940]: send (ATZ^M) Dec 26 12:46:55 paulsbox chat[1940]: expect (OK) Dec 26 12:46:55 paulsbox chat[1940]: ATZ^M^M Dec 26 12:46:55 paulsbox chat[1940]: OK Dec 26 12:46:55 paulsbox chat[1940]: -- got it Dec 26 12:46:55 paulsbox chat[1940]: send (ATDT3039544492^M) Dec 26 12:46:55 paulsbox chat[1940]: expect (CONNECT) Dec 26 12:46:55 paulsbox chat[1940]: ^M Dec 26 12:47:20 paulsbox chat[1940]: ATDT3039544492^M^M Dec 26 12:47:20 paulsbox chat[1940]: CONNECT Dec 26 12:47:20 paulsbox chat[1940]: -- got it Dec 26 12:47:20 paulsbox chat[1940]: send (\d) Dec 26 12:47:21 paulsbox pppd[1939]: Serial connection established. Dec 26 12:47:21 paulsbox pppd[1939]: using channel 5 Dec 26 12:47:21 paulsbox pppd[1939]: Using interface ppp0 Dec 26 12:47:21 paulsbox pppd[1939]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0 Dec 26 12:47:22 paulsbox pppd[1939]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0xf28ae703> <pcomp> <accomp>] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 < 00 04 00 00> <mru 1524> <asyncmap 0xa0000> <auth chap MD5> <pcomp> <accomp> <mrru 1524> <endpoint [MAC:00:c0:7b:9a:07:ed]> < 1b 04 02 02>] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 < 00 04 00 00> <mrru 1524> < 1b 04 02 02>] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0xf28ae703> <pcomp> <accomp>] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 <mru 1524> <asyncmap 0xa0000> <auth chap MD5> <pcomp> <accomp> <endpoint [MAC:00:c0:7b:9a:07:ed]>] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 <mru 1524> <asyncmap 0xa0000> <auth chap MD5> <pcomp> <accomp> <endpoint [MAC:00:c0:7b:9a:07:ed]>] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0xf28ae703] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [CHAP Challenge id=0x1 <f5f291e5e87ef8be2c5e4e7a0d243adc>, name = "nas38.den1.Level3.net"] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: sent [CHAP Response id=0x1 <1e1f8cbba236e4e1fd2ea3d5e16a3915>, name = "ELN/brpms"] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x0] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [CHAP Success id=0x1 "\000"] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: Remote message: ^@ Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0> <compress VJ 0f 01>] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <deflate 15> <deflate(old#) 15> <bsd v1 15>] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <compress VJ 0f 01> <addr 209.247.23.200>] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 <compress VJ 0f 01> <addr 209.247.23.200>] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0x3 80 fd 01 01 00 0f 1a 04 78 00 18 04 78 00 15 03 2f] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1 <addr 67.31.146.249>] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 <addr 67.31.146.249> <compress VJ 0f 01>] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 <addr 67.31.146.249> <compress VJ 0f 01>] Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: local IP address 67.31.146.249 Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: remote IP address 209.247.23.200 Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started (pid 1942) Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox wwwoffled[493]: WWWOFFLE Connection from host paulsbox (127.0.0.1). Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox wwwoffled[493]: WWWOFFLE Online. Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox wwwoffled[493]: WWWOFFLE Connection from host paulsbox (127.0.0.1). Dec 26 12:47:23 paulsbox wwwoffled[493]: WWWOFFLE Fetch. Dec 26 12:47:24 paulsbox pppd[1939]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid 1942), status = 0x0 Dec 26 12:47:33 paulsbox wwwoffled[493]: WWWOFFLE Fetch finished. Dec 26 12:47:53 paulsbox pppd[1939]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0xf28ae703] Dec 26 12:47:53 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0x0] Dec 26 12:48:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x2 magic=0xf28ae703] Dec 26 12:48:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x2 magic=0x0] Dec 26 12:48:53 paulsbox pppd[1939]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x3 magic=0xf28ae703] Dec 26 12:48:53 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x3 magic=0x0] Dec 26 12:49:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x4 magic=0xf28ae703] Dec 26 12:49:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x4 magic=0x0] Dec 26 12:49:53 paulsbox pppd[1939]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x5 magic=0xf28ae703] Dec 26 12:49:53 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x5 magic=0x0] Dec 26 12:50:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x6 magic=0xf28ae703] Dec 26 12:50:23 paulsbox pppd[1939]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x6 magic=0x0] As you can see, after adding group dialout to user paul, the user could not execute pon successfully unless there was another window open in which plog was running. Any ideas? Thanks. Paul Schwartz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]