On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:07:42 +0100 mick crane <mick.cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2021-04-28 16:05, Celejar wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 15:02:19 +0100 > > <to...@tuxteam.de> wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 09:46:53AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> > You've been making some very interesting points here about the key > >> > being context, but I'm not sure I totally buy it. DDG simply doesn't > >> > work well for me in certain areas of interest to me. Perhaps I'm simply > >> > not sufficiently skilled at disambiguation (my "DDG fu" needs > >> > improvement?), but I'm simply much less productive with DDG than with > >> > Google. And I do usually access Google without being logged in, with > >> > most cookies blocked, NoScript, etc., so in general it has much less > >> > (not zero, of course) "context" with regard to me than it does in > >> > general. > >> > >> Hm. Good point. Of course, Google has a lot more resources than DDG. > >> My hypothesis is that the advantage from that is rather marginal and > >> that they get most of their advantage from search context. Of course, > >> I may be wrong (as nearly always ;-) > >> > >> Could you give an example where DDG fails and Google succeeds? > > > > Here's a sort of example I just ran into. When trying to find > > information about Thetis hardware security keys, DDG simply couldn't > > find the company's website: searching DDG for "thetis key" turns up (in > > the first page of hits) a bunch of Amazon listings, and a bunch of > > reviews of, and articles about, security keys that mention Thetis. > > Searching for the same thing on Google, OTOH, returns the company's > > website (https://thetis.io) as the first hit (along with a convenient > > list of pages on the site). > > > > At least, this is what I get here. Who knows what you'll see ... > > > > Celejar > > I think Google tailors results according to what they know about you. > Even if you reset the router to a new IP and clear all the cookies they > still seem to know. I've wondered if the browser has an identifying > number. I can't speak for all browsers, of course, but I'm pretty sure Firefox has no (public) unique ID: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1123927 Celejar
