On Friday 25 September 2020 10:23:43 Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:01:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >Your paranoia is excessive. I have 5 machines online ATM, but they > > are all on a local network in the 1902.168.xx.xx block, which is NOT > > routable from the internet but are NAT'd to my net address by having > > such a setup in a router running dd-wrt. In nearly 2 decades, no one > > has come into my systems from the internet that I didn't give the > > credentials to do so. > > You post this all the time, but it's irrelevant at best and misleading > at worst. On a default debian system these days an external firewall > is basically a noop because there are no services listening. The > attack vector in modern environments is much more likely to be client > exploits (e.g., web browser) and a perimeter firewall adds zero > protection from that threat. > > And, honestly, most people who are compromised have no clue that they > are unless someone tells them. > > Telling people that all they need to do is install a perimeter > firewall and then they're secure is simply wrong.
I usually give the OP credit for not clicking on the links he runs across that aren't on the up and up. I dunno, but the odor about them seems to be warning enough for me. If OTOH, the OP succumbs, then he/she is going to get bit eventually and there is little you or I can do to stop it. It all boils down to a believeing in TANSTAAFL. We both obviously have experiences going back decades, and thats my experience. I find TANSTAAFL to be a law that you can't break if you tried. Like a western actor whose real name was Marion Morrison once said, stupid should hurt. What he didn't say was that it also should teach. And I don't believe we can argue about that. Stay safe and well Michael. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>