On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 09:29:06 +0300 Andrei POPESCU <andreimpope...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Ma, 25 aug 20, 14:17:26, Celejar wrote: > > > > I do use Signal on mobile, and I want to like it, but there are a few > > things about it that just really bother me (these may not be relevant > > to the OPs situation): > > I never claimed it's perfect, just that it's not a "black box". See also I know - I just took advantage of your comment to take the opportunity to vent some of my frustration with Signal. > this comment in one of the discussions you linked that appears to be > more balanced: > > https://github.com/privacytools/privacytools.io/issues/779#issuecomment-471687384 More balanced, perhaps - there is considerable debate in that thread - but I still side with the naysayers (the following quotes are from that comment, not you): > For instance, we showed that users can simply register a random phone I agree that we shouldn't discourage Signal, and certainly not encourage the vastly less free alternatives to it. But we also shouldn't give it a free pass on what I consider to be its somewhat anti-FLOSS / user hostile attitudes. > services since the developer buys from Amazon, drinks Coca-Cola, or > runs Windows 10 isn't about the actual service but about political > beliefs. These is a plain silly analogy. I don't care much about what *the developer* uses in his personal life, and I don't even care that much about what he uses to develop and host the software. I *do* care about what he makes (or strongly encourages) users use, such as the Play Store, Google Accounts, reCAPTCHAS, etc., as mentioned by the OP in that thread. [Back to quoting Andrei.] > As far as I can tell Signal is still miles ahead of WhatsApp, Telegram, Certainly. > Snapchat, etc. and it's still challenging to get others to use it[1]. > One might find that with the "perfect" communication tool there is no > one to communicate with :) ;) > [1] I basically had to "blackmail" my close family and friends by > refusing to install WhatsApp on my private phone. I refuse to install WhatsApp as well - but that just means that I miss some stuff, and have to trouble people to manually email me other stuff ... > Kind regards, Celejar
