Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 at 03:14 GMT, alex penned:

What do you think of everyone on this list  and other Linux lists
sending a form letter to all computer vendors asking them if they have
systemless computers or components that will  work with Linux?   Do
you think that would give them some incentive to become interested in
providing such computers and advertise them as such?   As it is now,
what incentive do they have ?


I'm not sure how many requests they have to get before they have an
effect.  People are already asking now, aren't they?  But maybe the
sales person on the other end doesn't report this request to his/her
boss ...

Whenever I call and ask I always make sure to have the salesman ask
his supervisor.  Failing that, I ask to personally speak to the
supervisor.

Maybe having the right address / point of contact is the key.

This is probably major point that is currently being overlooked.


Such a letter could be drafted and posted on lists along with as many
major vendor addresses such as Tiger Direct .  It could be designed so
all one would have to do is copy it and the TO addresses and send it..


In my opinion, a form letter will not have as much impact as a number of
individual letters.  On the other hand, I don't know how much more of an
impact a form letter has than no letter at all.

If the received 10,000 or 100,000 or 1,000,000 letters (boilerplate
or not) saying "I want to buy your products, but I won't until you
offer Linux support/OS-less machines/whatever," they will get their
butts in gear.

Take a cheap desktop system, US$ 1000, times even only 10,000 potential
customers.  If there is a company out there willing to reject out of
hand US$ 10,000,000 in potential sales, their shareholders need to
know about some major high-level mismanagement.



My thought is the letter should not be system specific but use the
word Linux in a generic sense..


Well, this poses problems, doesn't it?  I agree with you in theory, but
they want concrete facts, because they can probably be sued if they say
"certified to work with linux" and then it turns out that some asshat is
running redhat 6.2 and the driver support isn't present.  So they want
to be able to say "certified to work with X version of Y operating
system."  Problem is, I'd be pretty surprised if most new systems will
work with, say, woody, right off the bat.

Ideally, they would say "certified to work with linux, and here, the
linux drivers for all the hardware are on the CD we shipped with your
system."  Even that probably falls prey to issues of gcc versioning and
whatnot, though ...

If the drivers are GPL (as most are), then a simple statement like
support for this hardware is available in the Linux kernel version
2.4.21 and higher (or whatever), since GPL drivers tend to got included
in the kernel.  They can even give some suggestions, like: "The Linux
kernel version 2.4.21 is available as part of Red Hat 9, Mandrake 9.2
and SUSE 9.1," or something like that (I'm pulling version numbers
out of the air).

-Roberto

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