On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 7:47 PM songbird <songb...@anthive.com> wrote:

> Kenneth Parker wrote:
> > songbird wrote:
> ...
> >>   i only use a few commands regularly and have them either
> >> aliased or stuck in history for me in my .bashrc
> >> (i start every session by history -c to get rid of
> >> anything and then use history -s "command" so pretty
> >> much my routine when signing on in the morning is to
> >> do !1 and then !2, !3 if i need to do a dist-upgrade.
> >>
> >> !1 is apt-get update & fetchnews
> >>
> >
> > I opened a possible Hornet's Nest (at least in my understanding) on a
> > Public Server that I administer.   I had not seen "fetchnews" before and,
> > thinking it might give info on Upgradeable Packages, tried it, getting a
> > message about "leafnode" not found.
>
>   i think that would be apt-listchanges (i think).


Bingo!  That's what I thought you were doing!  I installed that also, right
now, and now have a tool, to display changes


> i don't use
> it i just use the apt-get update or apt-get dist-upgrade output
> to see what is potentially being changed and make sure there's
> nothing in there too scary before i answer Y to the download
> and update prompt.
>
>
> > Fair enough.  So, "apt-get install leafnode", which starts asking me when
> > it's supposed to Fetch this News.  Finally smelling something fishy, I
> > clicked on "none", and am examining what I just did to a "Debian-Like"
> > Ubuntu 16.04 Server.
> >
> > Obviously, I am partly to blame, as the "&" means multiple commands on
> one
> > Command Line.  It only "seemed" to be related to the "Apt-get update"
> > command.
>
>   oops sorry!
>

I didn't finish configuring it, so No Problem!

   > So, Mr. Songbird, are we talking  nntp here?  (That takes me back
several years!)

>
>   yes!  :)  it is how i read this group and write back
> via gmane.  it is much faster way to read LKML and a
> bunch of other lists too than via a web interface.  i can
> skim a few thousand posts in just a few moments and
> pick out the stuff that interests me.  mark the rest all
> read and it's done.
>
>
> > On Topic for here, is to make sure others don't make my error.  Off Topic
> > (and feel free to personal reply me, Songbird) is my curiosity on, what
> > remains of our nntp News System.  Are there still good Servers out there?
> > (Last time I checked, I found a smelly batch of Spam, mixed with Make
> Money
> > Fast and Porn, which caused me to back off!)
>
>   check out eternal-september.org  :)  no binaries.  just
> text.  that is all i want to read anyways.
>

Thanks!  Name Servers couldn't find it without the "www" in front.  I am
investigating it now.

Not likely to get too far down the nntp "Rabbit Hole" tonight,  but will
look closer at what's there.

Could you please ship me a personal email, on how you configured gmane and
LKML to read debian-user?

Thank you and best regards,

Kenneth Parker

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