Some of your examples could actually be categorized under a heading of debian-future or debian-directions.
According to David Palmer, > I have seen what I believe is a need for an additional mailing list, not > so much for the benefit of the developers' list, but most definitely for > the sake of sanity on debian-user. I have posted to curiosain > recognition of their patience with an O.T. situation. > > The following layout is for initial discussion only,pending the full > application being tendered as a wishlist bug report. > > Thanking you for your attention. > > > Mailing List Request. > > > > Basic Purpose:- > > > For this list, is multi-part. > > A need is seen, within the context of Debian, for a repository for all > discussions and notifications that are not list specific. It could be > argued here that if a subject is not list-specific, it has no place in > the list. Allow me to supply some examples:- > > > A notification on Debian-User of a new worm variant that sys. > admins on the list require notice of, as they are running Debian > servers supporting windows boxes also munging the mail > headers/filters of the developer who is on the list to supply > advice; > > > Discussions that become O.T., that although they are not > technical in nature enhance and enforce the community nature of > Debian. They occur, so therefore members feel the need for the > interaction, this would strengthen the community as a community. > This is especially noticeable on lists with a broad spectrum > sociological diversity such as Debian -User. I am not referring > here, to the inconsequential drivel that arises from those > entities that require a stage to prance on with a captive > audience to assuage the requirements imposed by attention > deficiency, there have been conversations initiated within the > disciplines of philosophy and psychology/sociology, for example, > and it is to these I refer. The other variety would get as short > shrift on the new list as being as unproductive as they are in > any other environment. > > There are many highly qualified people in the community, > physicists, mathematicians, et al, who, if they had the option > of taking part in non-debian discussion, could ironically > generate new directions within Debian. For example, there are a > number of packages of a mathematical nature within the Debian > programme, these could well be collated into a sub-project. The > type of list structure that I advocate conceivably forming a > wellspring for projects of this nature; > > > > As a migration point for O.T. threads that are creating a > distraction within the main lists. There are two aspects to > this:- > > (1). The distracting, disruptive influence just stated, and > > (2). The carry over and clutter created within the corresponding > archive. The last thing a busy admin needs when a server is > down, and she requires the answer to a problem, is to have to > wade through a tide of irrelevant flotsam and jetsam. Having the > facility of a list of this nature would have the effect of > really cleaning up the archives. > > Non productive O.T. threads could, with the consensus of three > other list members (to avoid personality clash scenarios) for > example, could be migrated to the proposed list, leaving the > main list to proceed productively, maintaining the integrity of > the archive. If the thread becomes too off the wall for the new > list, and after an initial negotiation fails, the > personality(ies) could be unsubscribed. I believe the new list > could be as productively essential as any other in its' own way, > I do not see it as the dumping ground for the collective Debian > effluviant, just a little further down the alimentary tract > perhaps ; > > > > As a repository for, and discussion arena of current news and > affairs relevant to our industry, e.g., Microsofts' latest > strategy, SCOs' gymnastics, the latest W.S.I.S. Conference > moves, and etc. > > Debian is a community, but as such is also part of the greater > community and not isolated from it. This world awareness could > subtly enhance a wide number of Debian community aspects from > programming direction to security. It would also create a > resource for such entities as Debian Weekly; > > > > There are other things that could be put forward as viable reasons for > the establishment of a list of this nature. I have only elaborated to > the extent that I have to illustrate the productive potential of this > venture, and the associated value it could present to the Debian > project, so as to avoid the hasty labeling of the situation as 'vanity > or offtopic.' > > > Interested Audience. > > > I'm sure that the number of O.T. threads in the lists are indicative of > the ability of this new list to establish and maintain itself. The > requirement is stated by the activity. > > > Also, after subsequent filing of the request to 'wishlist', others > interested in this situation could send a mail to the bug to register > interest. Details for this to be supplied in a subsequent mailing after > this initial stage is complete. > > > .......................................................................................................................................... > > > NAME. > > > This is open to suggestion at this stage. > > Some possibilities might be:- Debian- wholistic, debian-adjunct, or > whatever is felt to have application. > > > RATIONALE. > > > All of the above under the heading 'Basic Purpose' and more would be > applicable here. > > > SHORT DESCRIPTION. > > > Open to suggestion. > > > LONG DESCRIPTION. > > > Open to suggestion. > > > CATEGORY. > > > I would suggest 'Other' here, but again, open to suggestion. > > > SUBSCRIPTION POLICY. > > > Open. > > > POST POLICY. > > > I would suggest moderated here, principally because of potential > content. > > I would suggest a minimum of three moderators who would have to be > agreed as regards potential or actual unsubscription. > > Any volunteers for moderators? > > > WEB ARCHIVE. > > > I think the answer is no for this one. Not that I don't think that some > of the threads wouldn't deserve archiving, but I think that server space > must be given to Debian proper as a priority. > > Those that were interested in a particular thread could save it to a > mail folder/directory in transit. But again, open to suggestion. > > > Thoughts? > > > Regards, > > > David. > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Tony Godshall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
