On Friday 07 June 2019 03:28:57 pm Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 11:48:17AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >Neither can I and this "service" is not a familiar term since this is > > my first expedition into systemd territory. > > Try the systemd.service manual page to find out more. > > >Drivewire was written in Java, and changes in Java from wheezy to > > stretch have killed that, but a replacement is being written in > > python in hopes it might be a more stable language. We as a group, > > had no clue that Java would be changed to be so damned incompatible > > with itself. > > This is quite an aside, but I was interested in this problem. Wheezy > was released in 2013, and Stretch in 2017, 4 years later. I'm finding > it hard to answer what version of Java was in Wheezy, due to its age, > but I think it's OpenJDK 7. Stretch has OpenJDK 8, one major version > further on. There are no doubt compatibility problems between 7 and 8, > but relatively few (and certainly a lot fewer than 8 → 11). > > Java's compatibility story is — relative to most comparable languages > — very good. I regularly run a Java program originally written 20 > years ago. If you're going with Python make sure you start with Python > 3, not 2. > > >I can likely go with the flow as long as its documented in readily > >accessable form, something that L.P. is good at, he writes nice > > "papers" on his stuff but hides that info from the unwashed by not > > putting out decent man-pages. > > I'm surprised you think that, because I find the systemd man-pages to > be excellent. Have you read them or is this hearsay? > But first you need to know the name of the man page. You can't read it if you don't know its true name...
> > I disagree loudly about that but the exclusion of > >examples from manpages seems like an insidious attack on the users > >intelligence. > > …I'd guess hearsay because they have plenty of examples. A quick check > shows EXAMPLES sections in at least systemd.unit(5) and > systemd.target(5). That's a sample of two, how many manpages has systemd spawned by now? > >I give you the present state of the docs for ip as an > >example of how NOT to do a man page. > > Much like the tool, I find it terrible. And not comparable to > systemd's man-pages at all. I quite look forward to whatever replaces > "ip" (sooner rather than later) it can't happen fast enough for me, as theres a possibility I might not last long enough to see it. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
