On Sun 05 May 2019 at 20:52:40 (+0200), Erik Josefsson wrote: > Den 2019-05-05 kl. 16:26, skrev David Wright: > > Is this some sort of ticking off for wondering why the OP is*so* > > keen to be able to type ¦ directly on the keyboard that they are > > almost willing to use a USB keyboard with a laptop to get it? > > Particularly as the wiki page referred to above has a reference to > > http://jkorpela.fi/latin1/3.html#A6 > > which states "It is advisable to avoid using this character, since its > > code position is occupied by another character in ISO Latin 9 (alias > > ISO 8859-15), which will probably widely replace ISO Latin 1 at least > > in European usage." > > > > Now, using Unicode might avoid this danger, but it's still odd to > > want this character so much when it appears to be as much of a relic > > as the aforementioned ECU is. And, after all, the answer is that > > they didn't. > > For what it's worth, I had the foggy idea that I had to figure out how > to make the Teres keyboard reproduce the output from the Scandinavian > USB keyboard. What else would be "right"?
[Disclaimer: I'm not familiar with the Teres keyboard beyond looking at https://www.olimex.com/Products/DIY-Laptop/SPARE-PARTS/TERES-006-Keyboard/ (assuming this is it), and I've no idea of what keys your USB keyboard has, nor knowledge of Swedish keyboard conventions.] > When the 105 and 102 options then gave the same result, it got > completely lost. > > And I'm still kind of lost since I don't really understand what a > "Keyboard model" is. So already at the first menu choice of > dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration I don't really know what I'm > doing there. > > In the dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration menu there are [193 > different keyboard models] to choose from. > > But two of them are the same, at least from the point of view of a > Teres laptop. > > How does that work? I guess that with only 80 keys on your keyboard, many of the differences between these different models are dealing with keys you simply don't have. I can use pc105 for all my laptop, however many keys they have. What's more important is the layout: for example a British layout puts \| left of z, whereas a US one will make that key <> and the \| will be 3 keys right of p. In response to that, and deleting £, many of the other punctuation characters get shuffled around. The "key that's missing" usually refers to that left-of-z key, (i) because the fact that it's the only punctuation character thereabouts makes it rather obvious that it's missing, (ii) small US keyboards don't have it whereas British (and I assume many European) ones usually do. You mentioned your Scandinavian USB keyboard with it's "broken bar" in that left-of-z position. The "broken" appearance has been a traditional engraving on the pipe keycap for years and doesn't have any particular significance significance: the key produces pipe when typed normally (ie shifted). I don't know how they decide which glyphs should be typed when the AltGr key is used. Perhaps it's not too surprising that they place ¦ on the | key as a mnemonic. To what end, who knows? The glyph is virtually useless. But what does your USB keyboard produce when you type this key with just shift pressed? Cheers, David.
