On Sun 05 Nov 2017 at 21:21:01 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > Weaver composed on 2017-11-05 17:55 (UTC-0800): > > > David Wright wrote: > > >> On Sun 05 Nov 2017 at 12:18:50 (-0800), Weaver wrote: > > >>> Brian wrote: > > >>> > On Sun 05 Nov 2017 at 19:51:48 +0000, Brian wrote: > > >>> >> Midnight Commander and locate are also very useful additions, but that > >>> >> does merit including them in Priority: standard. > >>> > ^ > >>> > not > > >>> Not so sure about locate, but I'd include MC, with internal edit, some > >>> time before I'd include, say, Nano. > > >> IMO you have to have an editor suitable for root to configure the > >> system. Vi is fine for those who know it, but it has to be learnt. > >> Almost anyone who can read can use nano with no knowledge whatsoever. > > >> As for MC, it's in the population of programs that I would never run > >> as root, along with X, Emacs, …Office, browsers, media players (does > >> that cover it?). Root does not need Swiss Army knives slashing about. > > > Well, I don't know if I'd describe MC as `a Swiss Army Knife'. Thunar > > and nautilus, maybe. > > I also find aptitude handy at that level (before I've installed a DE, > > because I can see what I have installed and get every package > > description, installed or uninstalled, right there in the NCurses > > interface. Wordgrinder's another I'd fit in that category, for those who > > don't want a GUI and LibreOffice Writer. > > > I certainly wouldn't fit MC into the category of a multi-Megabyte > > browser or media programme requiring a heavy GUI interface. > > With all due respect, that's a bit over the top.
That wasn't my point: I don't care about how you categorise it. MC is a program that can wipe half your system in two or three keypresses. It can mix together a couple of directories likewise. There's no easy way of recording what just happened so that you can unpick it. It doesn't buy me enough in return. That's why I won't use it as root. > Not having MC is a handicap I won't long tolerate. In any unfamiliar > environment, it's the first thing I look for. On a fresh Debian minimal > installation I make, apt install mc is usually the first or second entry to go > into root's .bash_history. Ditto, but that's for me, as a user. Of course I want a file manager. Cheers, David.
