----- Original Message ----- From: "Hereon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 04:28 Subject: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user
> Request For Comment on: > Enhancing the Debian mailing lists by: > Creating debian-user-woody and debian-user-sarge mailing lists, > and deactivating debian-user. > > Summary: > > 1) The Debian user community is substantially suboptimally served > with the existence of the current debian-user list. > > 2) The debian-user list is _unnecessarily_ overtrafficked, > [due to it being the most likely place to ask user questions, and find > answers, regarding both Stable(Woody), and > Testing/Unstable(Sarge/Sid)] > which causes several problems for the Debian community: > a) Wasted mental effort discerning which version a message > pertains to, > b) Wasted mental effort searching for information on either > Woody or Sarge/Sid in the (currently) combined list. > > 3) The Debian community would be much better served > a) by the creation now of two new mailing lists, called: > 1) debian-user-woody, or possibly debian-user-stable, > or possibly debian-user-3 > 2) debian-user-sarge, or possibly debian-user-sid, > or possibly debian-user-sargesid, > or debian-user-testing, or possibly debian-user-unstable, > or possibly debian-user-testingunstable, > or possibly debian-user-4, > b) and, perhaps, by deactivating debian-user. > > 4) This message is requesting: > 1) Comment regarding specific suggestions of how the situation > could be inproved through the creation of 1 or more additional > lists to augment or replace debian-user, > 2) "Seconds" (to the motion) for the request of these changes. > > 5) After a comment period (perhaps one week), I will review & > analyze the comments. I will then either: > a) Submit a new RFC email, to solicit further clarifications & > additions, or > b) Submit a wishlist bug to request creation of the new lists, as per: > http://debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list > > 6) Once a wishlist bug for new list creation has been registered with > the Debian bug tracking system, it would be very helpful if > "several other people interested in the new list > would send a mail to the bug, in order to record their interest" > > > ======================================================================== > Debian stable releases have been approximately 1-2 years apart. During > this period of time, many Debian users make active use of the > testing/unstable system. > > Currently, user questions about testing/unstable are likely to be asked > in the debian-user list. > > But, that is definitely not the best way that things could be. > > By asking T/U questions in the -user forum, this is putting > communications on two logically separable topics (stable, and > testing/unstable) into one channel/forum. This causes several problems: > > 1) The repeated need for QUESTION ASKERS to specify which of the two > versions their question refers to. > > 2) The repeated need for READERS to be constantly alert as to which of > the two versions each message is referring to. > > 3) The difficluty of being unable to easily FIND INFORMATION in the list > archives relevant to a topic on which you want some information/data. > Ex: Someone wanting info about a specific topic regarding T/U would have > to try to de-cohere the combined list to find the messages pertaining to > their (S, or T/U) system. > > These problems could be eliminated, and no new long term problems more > serious than the current situation would occur, through the creation of > two new mailing lists, perhaps called > debian-user-woody and debian-user-sarge, > and perhaps by deactivating the current debian-user list. > > An excellent time to do this would be just before the start of the new > calender year, January 2004. > > Your solution oriented comments are greatly appreciated. > > Thank you. :-) > > ===== > If you think this would be a good idea, please reply to the list re this > email, so that there is a public record of support for this enhancement > of the Debian mailing lists. This is important for documenting desire > for this enhancement, so that the Debian mailing list maintainer(s) will > have evidence that this is useful for the Debian community. Thank you. > :) > > ======================================================================== > Some relevant web pages: > > HOWTO request a mailing list > http://debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list > > Requests for changes to the mailing lists: > Debian Bug report logs: package lists.debian.org > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=lists.debian.org > > A recent mailing list creation request: > request for new list: debian-desktop > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=218757 > ======================================================================== > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail > Sounds like a workable idea, this list has too much traffic. I would suggest that consideration be given to a "newbie" list as well as a "stable" and "unstable". This would give a way for new people to upgrade as experience allows. For myself there is too much I just dont understang on this list. Not the fault of the list. Hoyt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
