On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 06:16:02PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:55:31 -0400 do...@mail.com wrote: > > On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 12:56:54 -0700 > > Patrick Bartek <nemomm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 12:06:23 -0400 David Niklas <do...@mail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > [big snip] > > > > > > BTW: This is the first time since 2004 or 2005 that Florida's > > > > panhandle has been hit, so no, it's not time to have a global > > > > warming "I told you so party" on the mailing list. > > > > > > FYI (also for all the global warming, we caused it and it's going > > > to destroy the planet Chicken Littles out there): the Earth has been > > > warming steadily since the end of the last glaciation began some > > > 27,000 years ago. It's not something that just occurred during > > > former President Obama's administration. Humanity didn't cause it. > > > We contribute to it, yes, but so does every bovine who farts in the > > > pasture, and every volcano eruption, and every plant, and every > > > insect, and every forest or plains fire, and every swamp, and every > > > creature in the sea, and the sea itself, etc. But the driving force > > > of climate is the Sun. A fractional energy change one way or the > > > other has major effects of earthly climate more than all the other > > > contributory factors combined. Climate is never static. It's ALWAYS > > > in flux, always changing. But that change occurs so slowly that no > > > one lives long enough to "see" it. A few bad storms over a few > > > years doesn't make climate. > > <snip>
We had some beautiful climate change this morning - sunny, warm, mild breeze - spring finally began here in the land down under :) I just -love- climate change,