On Fri 08 Sep 2017 at 03:19:49 (+0100), Nick Boyce wrote:
> You're absolutely right.  I have sat next to seasoned vi users watching in 
> awe as their fingers flew entering weird totally non-intuitive commands (to 
> me) and achieving great edits in next to no time.  Other colleagues lived 
> inside emacs all day long, using it as a sort of OS with an editor attached.  
> I used other editors to achieve the same goals, quite possibly taking more 
> real time than the vi guys.  Each to their own.

> Agreed .. or whatever terminal (emulation) you're actually using - in my case 
> very often a real VT220/320/420, attached to a VMS, then TELNETed to a Un*x, 
> where the available /etc/termcap|terminfo may or may not have been well 
> crafted back at the factory.  Sometimes an ICL mainframe VDU connected via an 
> obscure 3rd-party emulation converter box to a DEC machine.  Latterly it 
> would be some 3rd-party terminal emulator on Windows 3.1/95. I still say ugh, 
> though it may well not be vi's fault.  The fact is that miraculously 'joe' 
> seemed to be much more resilient and usable in these circumstances.  As did 
> emacs .. if you could afford to wait.  I like an editor to appear within 1 
> second of me calling it (which rules out most GUI editors).

Just to point out there's a connection between these two paragraphs.
You shouldn't have to wait even a second for emacs to start if you
"live" in it, ie use the server-start command and keep a running
instance open. Then, instead of emacs, invoking emacsclient from the
shell and applications will be virtually instant.

Cheers,
David.

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