On 2017-04-01 at 20:08, Catherine Gramze wrote: >> On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Patrick Bartek <nemomm...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Never came across those during my research before posting my >> initial query here. And I read a lot of articles. Still have >> found nothing stating exactly why Linux distros don't offer a >> choice of inits during install, even in "expert" mode. You can >> choose just about everything else. I doubt that particular option >> was even considered. > > The Debian page: https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd > does a pretty good job of explaining the reasons for the switch. > > My best guess as to the lack of an init system choice would be the > huge ripple effect on documentation, making it harder to document > Debian when the user may be using either a sysvinit shell script or a > systemd utility. Not to mention the added developer time of > maintaining two init systems.
Eh? You *do* have a choice of which init system to run; many people running Debian are still using sysvinit, myself included. The system handles this just fine; if you file a bug report via e.g. reportbug, it will automatically detect which init system you're running and include that information in the bug report. What you don't have is a choice *in the installer* of which init system to *start out with*. The installer will always set up systemd (possible unusual situations involving preseeding aside); if you want sysvinit instead, you have to break out of the do-things-for-you friendly install process and do some package installs + uninstalls by hand. This makes it harder for people to get a non-systemd init system in place (particularly people with less technical experience), and harder to be sure that all traces of systemd-used-as-init-system have really been removed from the machine. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
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