On Sat 17 Sep 2016 at 20:10:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Lisi Reisz composed on 2016-09-17 11:56 (UTC+0100): > > >Alan McConnell wrote: > > >>Alas for the days of wheezy, when everything _worked_!! > > >Wheezy is LTS (though admittedly more successfully for servers), so if > >everything Just Worked, and you liked it, why did you change? There are > >indeed valid reasons, but what is yours? > > I sense Alan expects everyone here has read and remembers every post he has > written. He told us his, though indirectly: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/09/msg00296.html > > Synopsis: > Wheezy was on old puter, with mature hardware supported by FOSS. > Jessie is on new (unspecified model) Dell (with Win10), with unknown > hardware with unknown FOSS support.
Contrasting the behaviour of machine A with machine B (worked on my old machine, works fine with Windows etc) and indulging in nostalgia is only of passing interest when the objective is to get an aspect of machine A to function. If is like telling a doctor you ran a marathon every week twenty years ago when the present issue is having two broken legs. > New puter's design date is *probably* newer than Jessie, which would mean > problems can be *expected*, because he's not tried an OS that's newer than > his puter, such as Stretch. > > Win10 works without problems because Dell made sure of it. Dell didn't do > that with Jessie or any other Debian, and probably with no other Linux > either. Information about the audio card can be extracted from the output of 'lspci -v'. It could even be publicised here as an a aid to diagnosis. ALSA is built into the kernel so it is fruitless expecting to find packages to install it. However 'lsmod | grep snd' would be useful for people to see. > If Alan wants serious help, he needs to stop keeping his hardware info > secret. Ordinarily I would expect he could share the copious output provided > by alsa-info.sh, but it seems to be absent from Jessie, so he would need to > find it elsewhere in order to run it, e.g.: > http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a59c5f2edf8a61119a94d34a5d8afc13703f0b71 Pulseaudio is sometimes thought to be the culprit in audio issues. It can be taken out of the picture with 'apt-get purge pulseaudio' (reinstatement is easy) and any other sound-related packages installed in an endeavour to solve the problem also purged. Besides the nature of the hardware a bunch of users would be interested in its capabilities. 'aplay -L' and 'amixer' would go some way to satisfying their curiosity. Meanwhile, the device might spring into life and consequently the four outputs of interest would not be needed. -- Brian.
