On Wed 14 Sep 2016 at 17:11:26 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:

Alan McConnell's responses are indented and begin with >.

> From: "Brian" <a...@cityscape.co.uk>

Brian's resonses are not indented.

> 
> >          Yep.  I have been back to my Jessie in the meantime, and run 
> > os-prober.
> >          I didn't attempt to copy down on a piece of paper what it wrote; 
> > trust me
> >          that it was unenlightening garbage.
>        Ah. That's good.  Your E-mail reader seems to respect my indentations. 
>  Others
>        don't, alas.  Do you perchance use mutt?

Perchance.
 
> What is "unenlightening" to you may not be unenlightening to others;
> trust me on that. "garbage" is *your* value judgement; 
>          No, I'm going to insist on my "garbage" denotation.  Since I have a 
> very
>          acceptable way of going from one OS to another, your input on what 
> os-prober
>          returned to me is of little interest to me, and much less to the 
> other members
>          of this E-list, I'm sure.

You can insist on what you want. It is easy when only you know what the
the output is.

> 
>          But I'd like to defend what Lisi calls a "kludge".  Here is what I 
> do: when I
>          boot, or reboot my machine, if I do nothing I get my Jessie, which 
> is what I
>          want.  If I want to go to Windoze, I gotta hold the F12, as Felix 
> Mieta taught
>          me several moons ago, and then I get put into a nice menu: Choose 
> the boot
>          manager.  I use my Arrow keys to get to Windows boot manager, and 
> voila! in a
>          few seconds I'm in Windoze.  Not so difficult after all.  And I 
> would think that
>          an expert programmer, which I used to be but am not any more, could 
> put those
>          few simple steps into a "first of all" window.  Maybe a simple grub 
> file?

That's fine; it does what you want and will serve you well. Stick with
it. but forget about involving GRUB.
 
> We Debian users yearn for the day when copy 'n paste and USB sticks are
> invented. It will make things so much easier to move information (which
> is severely lacking from you in this thread) about.
>          Yes.  If I could move stuff from my Windows OS to my Jessie, and vice
>          versa, that would be a big help.  Any suggestions from anyone about 
> that?
>          Linux used to be able to go into MS-DOS and put files there and get 
> files
>          out of there.  Has anyone any information on that?

I rather think there is an answer in the response you quoted.
 
> > > Should you be game to try installing Jessie again, you might try a 
> > > network 
> > > installation started via a Stretch installer. 
> >          Jeez!  I can't even run X11 on my present install(*) let alone get 
> > on
> >          line.
>        That situation has changed as of just an hour ago.  I did a reinstall 
> of
>        xorg(or maybe it was x11), and my 'startx', from my old 
> wheezy(fortunately
>        saved) worked, after I'd done a few tweeks to my .xinitrc.  I tried my
>        old beloved sawfish(now wmctl) but that didn't work as well as 
> metacity.

Good. (Your technique is extraordinary but comments on it are outside
the scope of this thread).

> > (*)  Does anyone here know how to create a .Xauthority file?  That is one 
> > of the
> > things the Jessie installer failed to provide me with.
> 
> You've asked this five months ago:
>         I did indeed.  That was before my old machine gave up the ghost.  I 
> am 
>         impressed, Brian, that you keep such careful track of me.

I have a reasonably good memory. It was GNOME not installing libreoffice
which triggered the connections. So unusual. You never responded to that
either at the time it was pointed out.

> My final problem is: how to get my Jessie to get on line.  I don't think this 
> is
> anything anyone here can help me with, since I live in a retirement community
> which has a huge contract with Comcast.  I called a tech person here, and he 
> gave me
> a username and password which got me, and keeps me, online . . . but only for 
> the
> Windoze side.  I gotta do some exploring to see if I can make this work with 
> Jessie.

I'm confident you are resourceful and will manage.

-- 
Brian.

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