On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:18:50 -0400 Neal P. Murphy sent:

> On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 09:00:51 +1000
> Charlie <ariest...@ipstarmail.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:31:36 -0600 Joe Pfeiffer sent:
> >   
> > > > Kernel IP routing table
> > > > Destination Gateway  Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
> > > > 0.0.0.0       10.80.2.85  0.0.0.0     UG     0    0          0
> > > > eth0 10.80.2.84  0.0.0.0  255.255.255.252 U  0    0          0
> > > > eth0
> > > >
> > > > But when I check it through my windows box it comes up as it
> > > > should, according to my ISP, with the gateway being 10.80.2.86
> > > >
> > > > What is happening? Is it allowed to be that slack, one or the
> > > > other?    
> > > 
> > > Do you know whether your gateway is doing any sort of network
> > > address translation?  It seems odd to me that you're getting an
> > > address range that matches the external address of your modem,
> > > and that your external address is a 10.x.x.x (since those are all
> > > non-routable private IPs). I'd expect either the former if no
> > > translation is being done, or the latter if your external address
> > > weren't private.  But seeing both at the same time surprises me.
> > > 
> > > On my home system, for instance, my comcast cable modem is at
> > > 10.1.10.1 internally, but 173.163.240.62 externally.
> > > 
> > > I have seen DHCP assign different addresses to Windows than to
> > > Linux, but in your case the gateway box should be grabbing its
> > > address for itself, and giving your computer the other available
> > > address.  
> > 
> >     After contemplation, my reply is:
> > 
> > What can I say?
> > 
> > I have no idea about networking and with the previous satellite
> > system and modem never had the problems I'm experiencing with this
> > one.
> > 
> > Know nothing of network translation or external address.
> > 
> > Connecting directly to the modem with a standard Ethernet cat5
> > cable to a vanilla, up to date Debian testing laptop, get the
> > result posted.
> > 
> > Connecting to the same modem with the same cable to a windows 10
> > machine, I checked again this morning, because I could get a
> > connection through the modem after 54 minutes wait.
> > 
> > I get: IPv4 address 10.80.2.86
> > 
> > Which the person from my ISP was interested in.
> > 
> > I get: Default gateway 10.80.2.85
> > 
> > I don't know more than that?
> > 
> > I have been trying to discover what the problem is with my Satellite
> > internet connection. Doing this between outages by the NBN Co,
> > government arm, who own and run it.
> > 
> > It's decidedly tricky, and it's not like my Debian system is the
> > only one having these problems. They are also being experienced by
> > windows users on the same satellite system.
> > 
> > As an aside:
> > 
> > Connecting with an Ethernet cable to the wireless router I get:
> > 
> > Gateway 192.168.2.1
> > Destination 192.168.2.0
> > 
> > Thanks for taking the time and thinking about this problem I'm
> > experiencing. I will have to muddle through and just put up the long
> > wait to get an internet connection after turning on the modem.
> > 
> > Charlie  
> 
> Might it be related to the different MAC address? Might the ISP lock
> service to the MAC address it sees, at least for some period of time?
> 
> Get the MAC address of your Win10 system and set the NIC of your
> Debian system to it, for example: ip link set dev eth0 address
> aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
> 
> See if it works any better once you've cloned the MAC address.
> 
> N
> 


        After contemplation, my reply is:

The windows system doesn't find the internet connection either.

I try to connect with Debian by default and after some 30 or 40
minutes, a couple of reboots of the modem, bring my eth0 connection up
and down a couple of times. do direct connection to the modem. If no
connection found.

Couple up the windows 10 lappy. First through the wireless non
connection, rebooting the lappy a couple of times, then the Ethernet
cable through wireless router and then finally direct to the modem.

Then, because the connection hasn't been found. I return to the Debian
lappy, knowing now it's not that system and as I work keep trying
things and after maybe an hour or often more, get onto a connection.

One day didn't get on for 2 days, but that was a NBN outage for that
period.

Thanks for the suggestion.
Charlie

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