On Monday 25 July 2016 16:34:11 limpia wrote: > On 2016-07-24 22:27, phil wrote: > > On 25/07/2016 9:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > >> (Bringing it back to both lists so those who are telling Gene he > >> should upgrade his debian can get a clue.) > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> > >> > >> wrote: > >>> On Saturday 23 July 2016 05:41:29 Michael Schumacher wrote: > >>>> On 07/22/2016 10:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>>>> But when I hit the help menu, up pops the help for 2.6! So I fire > >>>>> up synaptic and check to see if I am out of date, because the > >>>>> "context help" doesn't work at all. Yup, I'm up to date allright, > >>>>> got gimp-2.8.2 but the doc files are for 2.6.x. Debian wheezy at > >>>>> your service, NOT. > >>>> > >>>> Well, actually you are not up-to-date at all - this is because you > >>>> choose to run the oldstable Debian release. > >>>> > >>>> This also means you're missing most of the bug fixes that have > >>>> happened in 2.8 since 2.8.2 has been released (minus some security > >>>> fixes, maybe). > >>>> > >>>>> Did this train lose its conductor a few stops back? Or how can I > >>>>> back it up to when it Just Worked(TM) quite a bit of the time? > >>>> > >>>> You should check whether you can and want to upgrade to a more > >>>> current > >>>> Debian release. Or, in train terms: check if you want to board a > >>>> train > >>>> that is actually going somewhere, instead of the museum train that's > >>>> running around in circles on its closed track. > >>> > >>> True, but I am stuck with a distribution that can run LinuxCNC, which > >>> has > >>> a need for a real time capable kernel. The guys are working on it but > >>> so > >>> far have not managed to get good enough IRQ response with kernels > >>> post > >>> 3.4.9-55 to run stepper motors direct, they have to be delegated to > >>> specialized control cards that run from $90 to 3 or 400, depending on > >>> the complexity of the machine being controlled. > >> > >> (I suppose I should restrain myself, and it doesn't help Gene at all > >> for me to say, to the pro-systemd sheeple, that this is what I was > >> warning about. But this is what I was warning about. > >> > >> Oh, for someone to foot me a few hundred million JPY to fork the > >> kernel and strip it of all the damage done in trying to deal with that > >> cabal. > >> > >> Ah, but I'd prefer to write a new kernel from scratch and get rid of a > >> whole lot of cruft. Linus has done well, and the bazaar has worked > >> well, but the committee effects take their toll. Systemd was just the > >> worst visible evidence of the committee effect to date. And I doubt > >> anyone reading this except Gene understands my mumbling, so I really > >> should restrain myself. :-< ) > > > > No Joel i'm sure plenty of us understand exactly what you are getting > > at > > . . . > > I have been following this thread, it seems to be drifting > into another topic, but any way, I just wanted to comment, > I never did like either Gimp or Inkscape, and have tried all > sorts of other "graphics programs", but none come close to the > versatility, and user friendliness that ImageMagick has, with > ImageMagick I can do whatever I need to do quickly and easily.
For something as simple as Gene was wanting, LibreOffice Draw would probably have been more than adequate, and much less trouble. But Gene is a great exponent of the "If the hard way will do, why use the easy one?" school of thought. ;-) Lisi
