On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 10:42:57PM -0800, Tom wrote: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 01:21:55AM -0500, ScruLoose wrote:
> > Great theory. Shame it's such a dismal failure in practice. > > People have been getting "disappeared" lately in The States. Somebody > > whispers "terrorist" and you get the midnight arrest, conviction in a > > completely secret tribunal, family and friends don't even know what > > you're _charged_ with... > > That's a pretty distorted picture of reality. How about indefinite detention for _no_ charges: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2003/11/08/court_upholds_us_detention_power/ Secret trials in USA are not just my "distorted picture": http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1030/p01s02-usju.html "There are secret lists governing whether you can get on an airplane, secret surveillance of e-mail and the Internet, and new warrants allowing the government to search your home, your bank records and your medical files without your knowing it." http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/projects/liberty/story/7457444p-8400138c.html "The Patriot Act isn't just about terrorists anymore" http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Nov/11152003/commenta/commenta.asp And so on. > I was over in Amsterdam twice in 2002 and took a walk through some of > the large Muslim immigrant neighborhoods. Amerstdam is kind of a shady > city anyway, but I have to tell you, Europe is blatantly full of people > plotting criminal activity. Aside from having little or nothing to do with anything, this just stinks of racism. > Y'all need to clean up your own backyard. Even if I chose to put any faith in your "spidey-sense" about Muslim neighborhoods in Amsterdam, this leaves two obvious questions: 1) I'm in Canada. How exactly is Amsterdam my backyard? 2) If I point out a legitimate problem, it doesn't count unless I can prove there are no problems elsewhere? WTF? Cheers! -- ,-------------------------------------------------------------------------. > -ScruLoose- | Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into < > Please do not | your ~/.signature to help me spread! < > reply off-list. | < `-------------------------------------------------------------------------'
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