> I have been a Debian user for more than 15 years, when the "war" about systemd > broke out I mostly ignored it, I just removed systemd from my systems because > I > don't like the implementation. > > Today I was setting up a new Debian system and wanted to remove systemd only > to > find our that the old tools "bsdutils" has been made dependent upon > libsystemd0 > > "This package contains the bare minimum of BSD utilities needed for a Debian > system: logger, renice, script, scriptreplay, and wall. The remaining standard > BSD utilities are provided by bsdmainutils." > > What the freaking !#¤"#¤"¤#"#%" are people doing!? > > Why the hell has this collections of utilities from FreeBSD been made > dependent > upon libsystemd0!?!?!? > > Freedom of choice my ass!
Hi Erik Systemd is spreading like a cancer striking its ugly tentacles into everything it can get its hands on. But there is hope! Eventhough it is still alpha we have migrated almost all of our desktop systems to Devuan (the Debian fork), still missing a few, but we're getting to them as well. It works really great! Like Jessie but without systemd. For servers we have shifted from Debian to Alpine Linux. Not only does Alpine Linux not have systemd, it is also a much more secure Linux, running with a patched kernel, and it is really doing things the original UNIX way. We're also running OpenBSD and FreeBSD on some of our firewalls, but we're also using FreeBSD on desktops with identical Xfce4 setups to those of Devuan. It is all working really great and I can highly recommend it! Debian has been our favorite OS for many many years, but the way the users unhappiness with systemd was handled, and the implementation itself, has made us bid farewell. Kind regards
