-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 6/07/2015 2:44 AM, Alef Farah wrote: > On 2015-06-28 19:00, Don Armstrong wrote: >> Contentless maligning of systemd and/or other parts of Debian are >> not on topic on Debian mailing lists, and certainly not on topic >> on -user. Please stop. >> >> On the other hand, if there are bugs, file them with details, so >> they can be fixed, like this very bug was. >> >> -- Don Armstrong >> http://www.donarmstrong.com > > I've been having the same keyboard issues (PS/2 mouse is fine). > I've had several problems with systemd since it was added as > default, so have others and you can do a quick search in this > mailing list to find it. I see no reason why users shouldn't point > out their discontent with it in the users mailing list. I'm only > speaking out of my experience as a user, but it seems to me it was > added to "stable" a little too soon. I'm not trying to undermine > the work maintainers put into it, just writing what my experience > with it has been.
Exactly, I have been a very strong supporter of Debian, but this has completely broken my trust and my support; this is extremely unfortunate, but the DDs think they know best and we are stuck with it if we use Debian. Of course it doesn't help when non pro systemd people have their posting rights threatened and others feel that they can't speak up for what they believe and support or don't support. Most certainly the Debian of old, being stable and trustworthy has been lost due to systemd adoption. I want old Debian back, not Devuan, not Gentoo .. bring back the /real/ Debian, if only for server use which has no need for systemd whatsoever. Leave the experimenting to the desktop users whom really want to use it that way. A. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAlWZfGIACgkQqBZry7fv4vuhXQD+Lw6D/8SPUEMlxCVg19S5uDiq KcTTn6qWN2LPLCaKgHYA/3PY8s7VUIZHjjYC+AjMC85I6PnqRW64WsY2l2f/Dxc9 =kBWh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55997c63.1050...@affinityvision.com.au