2015-06-23 11:17 GMT+02:00 <to...@tuxteam.de>:

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> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:52:20AM +0200, claude juif wrote:
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> > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/
>
> Agreed. As I posted elsewhere, lack of documentation is not something
> which systemd can be accused of.
>
> > You have lot of docs here. From what i see, it's all about change.
>
> I strongly disagree on that. Moreover, this meme has been bandied
> against systemd opponents and carries the message "all your other
> arguments are moot, you just are resistant to change". This can
> feel rather insulting.
>

What made me think it's all about change, it's because every come here and
shout systemd is hell, it is not working, and debian devs are bad guys.
Nobody gives error messages, logs or just describe a problem.

" If you switch from chrome to firefox, and something is not working as you
expect, you will not come here claiming firefox is shit and why debian devs
make it default browser ?" You will ask : " How can i do this in firefox ?"
No ?

I never had a chance to help new systemd users because they will never
explain their problem, just raging about systemd.

I'm not systemd dev, but i will gladly help any people who want to give it
a try.


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> I think this argument has contributed considerably to the bad climate
> we have now.
>
> Regards
> - -- tomás
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