On 17/04/2015, David Wright <deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com):
>> On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole <liam.p.oto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby <bret.bu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore <wayward4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > <SNIP>
>> >
>> >>> Have you tried "catalyst" for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility
>> >>> Product Family your 6000 series is listed.
>> >>> http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst14-9LINReleaseNotes.aspx
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Hello.
>> >>
>> >> I assume something bad is in the source code of that web page (it is
>> >> aspx, so, proprietary MS stuff), but, with two web browsers - Arora
>> >> and rekonq, running on Debian 6, I can only see a bit at the op of the
>> >> web page - no scroll bar or any way to get to the important stuff
>> >> lower down on the web page.
>> >>
>> >> Publishing a web page about Linux stuff, in MS only format, is a bit
>> >> weird.
>> >>
>> >> It is kind of like the manuafacturer (AMD) wants to hide its Linux
>> >> stuff, from Linux users.
>> >
>> > It is nothing of the sort. The site Works fine in iceweasel on jessie.
>> > It should work on wheezy, which has the same version of iceweasel, too.
>> >
>> > Any browser you run in squeeze was EOL'ed years ago, from a security
>> > perspective if nothing else.
>> >
>>
>>
>> What it comes down to, has nothing to do with the version number of
>> Debian.
>
> I don't think that was Liam's point. You said you were running a
> squeeze browser, 21 lines above and again 6 lines below this one.
> That would be a security risk were it not LTS.
>


Liam's point appeared to be that if anyone (me) is stupid enough to be
still using "squeeze", then they (me) can't expect anything to work in
it.


>> What it came down to, is, the web page being aspx shite, it requires
>> javascript (javashite).
>>
>> I installed a 12.x version of opera (from my Debian 6 desktop system),
>> on this (Debian 7, running on the Acer E5-521-238Q) system,  and left
>> javascript enabled, and the web page works.
>>
>> In going to the Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit option, as such packages are
>> usually .deb packages, and so, tend to work on Debian (which is how I
>> got Seamonkey installed and working on this system, from an old
>> version of Seamonkey.deb, that I had obtained), I downloaded and tried
>> to install the package.
>
> I'm not sure I can tell what package you mean here.
>

fglrx_14.501-0ubuntu1_amd64_UB_14.01.deb

>> I got a dependency problem;
>> "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: fglrx-core"
>>
>> So, I seached in Synaptic, for fglrx, and found
>>
>> fglrx-driver;
>
> But that isn't fglrx-core is it? Don't you need something like
> fglrx-core_14.201-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
>

>From whence do I get that?

>> "
>> non-free ATI/AMD RadeonHD display driver
>>
>> FGLRX / AMD Catalyst is the non-free proprietary display driver for the
>> ATI/AMD RadeonHD and FireGL graphics cards. As an alternative, you may
>> try
>> the newest free driver xserver-xorg-video-radeon.
>>
>> This driver release supports the following graphics adapter families:
>> AMD Radeon HD 7000, AMD Radeon HD 6000, and AMD Radeon HD 5000.
>> "
>>
>> So, I searched within Synaptic, for xserver-xorg-video-radeon .
>>
>> I found that xserver-xorg-video-ati and xserver-xorg-video-radeon, are
>> already installed.
>
> I take it that's on your wheezy system.
>

If wheezy is Debian 7 ( - this is on one of my Debian 7 installations
- one has this AMD graphics thing, and the other has the nVidia thing,
and, after about 16-18 months, I am still trying to get the other
installation to work)

>> The first has, in its package description;
>>
>> "
>> X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI display driver wrapper
>>
>> This package provides the 'ati' driver for the AMD/ATI Mach64, Rage128,
>> Radeon, FireGL, FireMV, FirePro and FireStream series. This driver is
>> actually a wrapper that loads one of the 'mach64', 'r128' or 'radeon'
>> sub-drivers depending on the hardware.
>> These sub-drivers are brought through package dependencies.
>>
>> Users of Rage, Mach, or Radeon boards may remove this package only if
>> they use Driver "r128", "mach64", or "radeon" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>> instead of relying on autodetection.
>> "
>>
>> and, for the secomd;
>>
>> "
>> X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display driver
>>
>> This package provides the 'radeon' driver for the AMD/ATI cards. The
>> following chips should be supported: R100, RV100, RS100, RV200, RS200,
>> RS250, R200, RV250, RV280, RS300, RS350, RS400/RS480, R300, R350, R360,
>> RV350, RV360, RV370, RV380, RV410, R420, R423/R430, R480/R481,
>> RV505/RV515/RV516/RV550, R520, RV530/RV560, RV570/R580,
>> RS600/RS690/RS740, R600, RV610/RV630, RV620/RV635, RV670, RS780/RS880,
>> RV710/RV730, RV740/RV770/RV790, CEDAR, REDWOOD, JUNIPER, CYPRESS,
>> HEMLOCK, PALM, SUMO/SUMO2, BARTS, TURKS, CAICOS, CAYMAN, ARUBA.
>> "
>>
>> So, for Debian 7, two driver packages for AMD/ATI Radeon video things,
>> were already installed, but, they, apparently, do not cover the
>> applicable video controller.
>
> But we were expecting that weren't we? I thought the problem was that
> you have this nice new hardware.
>

It is not "nice" new hardware. This partivular computer was bought to
try to determine whether Debian 7 could run an external monitor - it
has a different graphics hardware configuration. So far, it is not
"nice", as I can't get Debian 7 to run the external monitor, from it.

I had not previously, been aware that any AMD/ATI graphics packages
were installed on the system.

>> And, the manufacturer's driver, apparently, can not be installed, due to
>> "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: fglrx-core"
>>
>> The Synaptic list of packages, returned in searching for fglrx, does
>> not include the unsatisfiable dependency package; fglrx-core.
>
> I don't know what synaptic is.

Synaptic is a Debian package manager, listed in the Debian packages list.

> Are you searching the Debian wheezy
> archives? Might it be worth trying with jessie (I can't remember if
> you said you'd tried this).
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>



-- 
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992

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