Hi. On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 05:18:09AM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: > On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 12:30:03 PM UTC+5:30, Petter Adsen wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 09:35:25 -0700 > > David Christensen wrote: > > > > > On 04/12/2015 01:33 AM, Petter Adsen wrote:> OK, thank you, I will > > > definitely consider Perl also, as I already know > > > > a little and have a few books on it. > > > > > > I'd advise learning one language well, where "well" includes security > > > best practices. Understand that learning any modern language takes a > > > lot of time and effort. So pick one that is good at solving the > > > kinds of problems that you are motivated to work on, because the > > > going will get tough and you'll have to find the tenacity to struggle > > > through. > > > > I can see the logic in that. The issue with that is that I need them > > for two separate things - I want to learn C to get a deeper > > understanding of how Linux works, and I was initially thinking about > > Python for sysadmin tasks that I can't or don't know how to do in shell > > scripts. > > One way to fry a brain is to learn C.
Please. I'd understand if it was C++ or Java. Learning C is simple and fun. Just read classic K&R treatise, do all the examples. Did so back in high school, and no brain was damaged in the process :) The only problem today is to get a C compiler that understands K&R C. And yes, about the only *reasonable* way to understand Linux is to do write something which (ab)using syscalls. And that's something best done in C (maybe Perl). > Another way to fry the brain is to struggle with regular expressions. > Unless you like a double-fried brain I suggest doing strictly one at a time. Now that's something I tend to agree with. One just need to see RFC822 fully compliant regexp to beleive. > 20+ years ago I wrote a rant on why teaching (and ∴ learning) C causes grief: > http://blog.languager.org/2013/02/c-in-education-and-software-engineering.html > > In one way it shows a lot of traps and pitfalls of beginners. > It also recommends better paradigms than C for learning programming. > > If python had existed then I would have recommended it. [1] says - appeared: 1991. Qualifies for 20 years IMO. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_(programming_language) Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150413150049.GA14383@x101h
