On Tue 11 Nov 2014 at 12:58:25 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Brian wrote: > >Everyone gets it. Not everyone boots with it. Not everyone who boots > >first time with it gets to use it on subsequent boots. > > That is DEFINITELY a definition of "default" that is subject to very > differing opinions.
Everyone gets systemd. This a a fact, not an opinion. Everyone can alter what they first boot with. This is a fact, not an opinion, Everyone can change the init system after first boot. This is a fact, not an opinion, > And there is a very distinct difference between "installed by > default" and "enabled by default." There may be. But, everyone gets systemd. (Please see above). > For the debian-installer, it ultimately comes down to which packages > are marked as essential in the repo, and what the installer does > with those packages "by default." Indeed it does. > Umm.... no-one has disputed that this is what happens. What many > have disputed is whether or not alternatives should be possible. > > Specifically, if not for debootstrap bug #668001, for which a patch > now exists, it would be possible to do a netinst that does not > install systemd as PID1. Really? You have tested this? > Further, at least some are advocating for making that choice > available as part of the menu presented by the installer. Yes they have. > The package management system provides for alternatives. A bug in > debootstrap gets in the way. When this bug is fixed all will be sweetness and light? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141111185124.gi3...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
