On 24/10/2014, Bret Busby <bret.bu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 14/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU <andreimpope...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Ma, 14 oct 14, 03:59:04, Bret Busby wrote:
>>>
>>> Apart from the politics of the free vs proprietary software, what do
>>> you know of any differences (as in advantages/disadvantages, if any)
>>> between the two driver types?
>>
>> In my experience nouveau is slower (the primary reason I keep going back
>> to nvidia), but better much better integrated with the rest of the
>> system (I have some obscure bugs with nvidia that just don't happen with
>> nouveau).
>>
>>> Note wheezy-backports does not contain the newer
>>> xserver-xorg-video-intel package that is needed by newer intel cards.
>>> If you find yourself stuck with the fbdev or vesa driver then you'll
>>> need to upgrade to jessie or sid.
>>
>> This is about backports, you're still on pure wheezy (as far as you told
>> us).
>>
>>> I am wondering whether it is all getting too complicated, as, with
>>> your reference to the vesa thing, the above seems to suggest that I
>>> need to go to testing (if that is "jessie") or experimental (= sid).
>>
>> Only if xserver-xorg-video-intel in *backports* doesn't support your
>> card. This is still unknown at this point.
>>
>>> If I use the backports thing, to go to a newer kernel, would that be
>>> compatible with the Debian 7 system as it stands, or, would I end up
>>> with a hybrid (mixture of stable and testing) system?
>>
>> In my opinion backports is the safest method to enhance an otherwise
>> stable system and I've used them successfully. Do respect the
>> instructions and only install select backports.
>>
>> Kernels in particular are safer than most other packages, especially
>> since you can always boot with the stable kernel if something doesn't
>> work as expected.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Andrei
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>
>
> Okay - I have now done the backports thing, and installed bumble bee
> and primus, and rebooted (as it also involved a kernel upgrade to
> 3.2.x.
>
> That still did not detect the external monitor, so I installed the
> bumblebee-nvidia, and that tols me that it had to be configured, and
> did not go through the confifuration process, and I do not remember
> the relevant file for configuring it, and I do not know hopw to access
> the configuration instructions for it.
>
> So, I still can not get Debian 7.x (now backported - should that be
> "Debian 7 Backport", like "Debian 6 LTS" ?).
>
> I had not real;ised that it would be so difficult to get an external
> monitor working with Debian - I expected that it would simply be a
> "Plung and Play" thing, like it is with Ubuntu, where the hardware
> would be automatically detected and automatically be operational.
>
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> ..............
>
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>  you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
>  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
>  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>  written by Douglas Adams,
>  published by Pan Books, 1992
>
> ....................................................
>

Hello.

I have just realised the presence, and, extent of the presence, of the
spelling/typographical errors in the last previous message that I
posted about this; above, so am posting it again, hopefully with all
of the errors corrected.

I use Arora for accessing the gmail account, and it does not have/use
spellchecking, so, from time to time, errors can get through, and,
sometimes, entered text, simply disappears, or, is inserted other than
where it should be.

The (hopefully) corrected last previous post, in this thread, is below.

Okay - I have now done the backports thing, and installed bumblebee
and primus, and rebooted (as it also involved a kernel upgrade to
3.2.x).

That still did not detect the external monitor, so I installed the
bumblebee-nvidia, and that told me that it had to be configured, and
did not go through the configuration process, and I do not remember
the relevant file for configuring it, and I do not know how to access
the configuration instructions for it.

So, I still can not get Debian 7.x (now backported - should that be
"Debian 7 Backport", like "Debian 6 LTS" ?) to detect and use the
external monitor.

I had not realised that it would be so difficult to get an external
monitor working with Debian 7 - I expected that it would simply be a
"Plug and Play" thing, like it is with Ubuntu, where the hardware
would be automatically detected and automatically be operational (and
I think it was equally easy as with Ububtu 14.04, with Debian 6).

(In addition to the last previous post:)

I do not know whetehr it is an issue of incompatibility between Debian
7 and the graphics card(s), or, whether it is an LXDE issue, or,
whether it si something else.

But, whatever it is, I still can not get Debian 7 to recognise and
operate the external monitor.

-- 
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992

....................................................


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