On 15/10/2014, francis picabia <fpica...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Bret Busby <b...@busby.net> wrote: >> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Bret Busby wrote: >> >>> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 00:35:47 >>> From: Bret Busby <b...@busby.net> >>> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> >>> Subject: Re: alpine status? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, francis picabia wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Bret Busby <bret.bu...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 04/09/2014, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can anyone confirm if development continues on alpine? >>>>>> I am getting mixed messages about this, one from my web hosting >>>>>> company >>>>>> suggesting I join the developer's list, and another from an end user >>>>>> claiming that development no longer exists. >>>>>> Thanks much, >>>>>> Karen >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello. >>>>> >>>>> I suggest that you visit >>>>> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info >>>>> and subscribe to that mailing list, and, post your query there. >>>>> >>>>> I believe that you would find that development of alpine, is alive and >>>>> well, and, that list includes the developers. >>>>> >>>>> I believe that the version of alpine that I use, is 2.00, running on >>>>> Debian 6. >>>> >>>> >>>> Bret's information is out of date. >>>> >>>> There is no life at the University of Washington project. >>>> The mailing list archives are gone. A subscribe request >>>> goes unanswered. There is a Debian bug report >>>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=687582 >>>> and no progress on that for a couple of years. >>>> This is actually my incentive for looking into this - I run >>>> into this bug every day. >>>> >>>> re-alpine is a new project taking over the alpine effort. >>>> However, the latest files there are from 2012, so I wonder >>>> how active this project is. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> See message below. >>> >>> It is from the alpine mailing list to which I referred, which has >>> distributed messages this month, and, the message below, refers to >>> ongoing >>> development of alpine. >>> >>> If you do not believe me, that the alpine mailing list is still active, >>> send a message direct to the poster of the message below, asking about >>> the >>> mailing list. >>> >>> -- >>> Bret Busby >>> Armadale >>> West Australia >>> .............. >>> >>> "So once you do know what the question actually is, >>> you'll know what the answer means." >>> - Deep Thought, >>> Chapter 28 of Book 1 of >>> "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: >>> A Trilogy In Four Parts", >>> written by Douglas Adams, >>> published by Pan Books, 1992 >>> .................................................... >>> >>> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:40:53 >>>> From: Eduardo Chappa <cha...@gmx.com> >>> >>> >>>> Cc: alpine-i...@u.washington.edu >>>> Subject: Re: [Alpine-info] Signing problems >>>> >>>> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014, Gregory Heytings wrote: >>>> >>>> > Hi list, >>>> > > I try to sign emails with Alpine (latest version, 2.11). >>>> >>>> Gregory, >>>> >>>> Neither Alpine 2.11 nor previous versions, are very good at doing >>>> S/MIME. Please try the latest alpha version to see if that makes a >>>> difference with you. >>>> You can get it at >>>> >>>> http://patches.freeiz.com/alpine/alpha/release/ >>>> >>>> (I am working out a few minor bugs in that release, and adding new >>>> features at this time.) >>>> >>>> Now, in regards to verifying signatures. Well, that is a complex >>>> issue. >>>> There are many ways in which a signed message can fail to verify. Some >>>> of >>>> these >>>> ways are predictable, and the latest alpha pre-release attempts up to 8 >>>> strategies to verify a signed message before it gives up in verifying >>>> the >>>> signature. >>>> There are ways to add more strategies, but the total number of >>>> strategies >>>> Alpine can do increases exponentially (in powers of 2) when a new >>>> strategy >>>> is >>>> added. Again, it is hard to guess why a specific message does not >>>> verify, >>>> but it you are willing to share an example with me, I might help you >>>> understand >>>> why alpine 2.11 fails to verify it. >>>> >>>> In regards to what to do with the .p12 comodo certificate, this is >>>> now >>>> included in the S/MIME help of Alpine, and so let me quote the text: >>>> >>>> <HELP> >>>> In order to create a private key use the command >>>> >>>> openssl pkcs12 -in certificate.p12 -out y...@address.com.key >>>> >>>> In order to create a public certificate use the command >>>> >>>> openssl pkcs12 -in certificate.p12 -clcerts -nokeys -out >>>> y...@address.com.crt >>>> >>>> In order to create a certificate authority certificate use the command >>>> >>>> openssl pkcs12 -in certificate.p12 -cacerts -nokeys -out >>>> certificate-ca.crt >>>> </HELP> >>>> >>>> I hope this helps. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Eduardo >>>> http://patches.freeiz.com/alpine/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Alpine-info mailing list >>>> alpine-i...@u.washington.edu >>>> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info >>>> >>>> [ Note: This message contains email list management information ] >>>> >>> .................................................... >>> >> >> Oh, and the last message that I have receivd from the alpine mailing list >> to >> which I have referred, bears the datestamp of Friday 10 October 2014. >> >> The above message posted to the Debian Users mailing list, stating that >> my >> "information is out of date", is a bit like stating, on another list, >> that >> the Debian Project does not exist anymore, and that the Debian Users >> mailing >> list does not exist anymore. > > Your information carries no specifics as to exactly what > project you are referring to. Are you referring to the > University of Washington Alpine project, or something else? > > I'm seeing this... > > No releases since 2008: > > http://www.washington.edu/alpine/changes.html > > (Six years at this point) > > Broken mailman links on the mailing list page: > > http://mailman2.u.washington.edu/pipermail/alpine-info > > Links to very old packages (e.g. Debian 4) > > http://www.washington.edu/alpine/acquire/ > > I have no response to a subscribe request sent to: > > alpine-info-subscr...@mailman.u.washington.edu > > hours ago. > > Why am I to believe this is project is alive and current? > > Please post a link to the mailing list archives. Every link I find > about it is 404. > > >
Read the message that I posted to the list, in this thread, with the timestamp "Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 01:47:05 +0800" and answer the question - did you go to the URL that I posted in that message? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CACX6j8Oc2xo5t6-kiTKeRqhbvrXhrXFNuZU=4zji2nplfox...@mail.gmail.com
