On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Chris Bannister <cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 02:10:11PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> >> >> Which is another way of saying that you want others to have already made >> >> the mistakes for you. >> > >> > No it isn't! Ponder why most people take their car to a mechanic for >> > servicing. >> >> And you snipped: >> >> >> As long as you recognize that somebody has to make the mistakes, >> >> and don't mind watching and learning while they do, that's not necessarily >> >> a bad thing, given courtesy and quid-pro-quo, of course. > > Not on purpose. I didn't see it. It wasn't near that paragraph. > >> Paying a mechanic is one kind of quid-pro-quo, wouldn't you say? > > Don't know about you, but I don't know anyone who pays their mechanic to > make mistakes. Au contraire in fact. > >> Do I need to unpack that a bit more, talk about how testing is a >> substitute for making mistakes? > > No thanks.
And yet it is apparent that you need it unpacked for you. Good mechanics made plenty of mistakes while learning the trade, and learned from their mistakes. That's what schools are for, and that's why those who learn on the job practice on junkers and their own hot-rods before they tackle customers' cars. Tests at school are one more opportunity to make sure that most of the learning by mistakes is behind you when you start working on customer equipment. (I don't want the straight-A student right out of school as my mechanic, or doctor. Straight-A students make their mistakes on the job.) -- Joel Rees Be careful when you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart, and ask yourself if you are not your own worst enemy. Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iOWKjMpdQCei65i-CuECnSXoDZyRWEnfs1Mhtz2ZZ0y=g...@mail.gmail.com