-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 09/28/2014 at 05:34 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> It may also be true that systemd upstream won´t be willing to > implement the change you want to see. But if you choose to keep > your power with yourself, instead of giving it to others, you are > still powerful, even in that case. An there are other options to > create change. > > I also still believe that if systemd developers did completely off > the limits think, they would quickly be forked. The trouble with that is that some (many?) people think they already *have* done completely off-limits things, and yet many other people are arguing that those things are not completely off-limits, and/or that their benefits outweigh that beyond-the-pale status. As I've said from fairly early on (on debian-devel, not here), there are fundamental philosophical differences about software design between the sides here - under and below any differences in what currently-manifesting practical behaviors each side does or does not consider a problem. (Those differences go beyond just "people who object to systemd" vs. "the systemd developers, by the way. They also extend to "people who object to systemd" vs. "people who think there's nothing wrong with systemd", and/or "people who may see things wrong with systemd, but don't think there's anything wrong with its being (made the default / installed automatically)", et cetera.) - -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJUJ/YxAAoJEASpNY00KDJrNToP/1Bn/etiQtZZwuCUfFLatnNG LTuYdn5Ar8T9lhxhkQh2brdiBorx1mBlJh93/xQm83YcHtv8P2PJz6gA9h1UDG3q HYiL4uV2Dvol7rNboG0N51C5/1UtRP6YDOt143pbZWgXP5C3mK/8XKJa0gsOp4Ul Cr5s3ju+AhTKatHMfUiqjL9Oh7SnpOpFPxRuBNKZWCIv76WY9GXS1MQyR2LRZ98W UJhURFgS0EtgD8z1DuMvHkTzj0/ZQadDk6dagElTSzu9cCRDeD1aGIRAc0Ht91/B PCku5O+TKSLXozbRGFLHrAkNolUOFRkKVgmql4QlgmD7BM6yjsCARdQZ0F3C/AKc LwZU2AIq72FwVyPuB93ZGxCq4NeqDuHEwlVt0uix9Ilgl2sOfnUcmZk29AOoC15t Ly2zY6r1taq9bX6br7lNCtua5+TVLCVMzq62xIkRCxg+LiYLzAqHT89/cmVQFdFd NQEYK+nunCFR5Ni8YXnbTpUIVKrPu96HY9NTLXzKyUpdTsXQa7E1e5UwkZIeyISk 06KC6hQ8npeC57xqK7uhLRaMl53beld1NiaTJvaElgmKjOpyVJv7rRKSO67TbGUh y2Jr1GvINQE7TCjP8U9YGW5xQIZIC/hYw5JHh0g8ZTDxqPkTaySxUjGPg37QesZL a2Nz2XDGRkh4dNHuBC1Y =dhNI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5427f632.4090...@fastmail.fm