On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:45:30 +0900
> Joel Rees <joel.r...@gmail.com> wrote:

I assume you mean

>[...]
>> Do we use a streamlined init, forcing interprocess communication to be
>> well-defined and explicit?
>>[...]
> Check this out:
>
> http://code.dogmap.org/svscan-1/
>
> This guy's actually done it and gotten it running.

My initial reaction was, done what?

But if you're saying what I think you're saying, this looks pretty cool.

It'll take me some time to check that what he's saying matches what
he's doing, and to figure out what parts of systemd daemontools
replaces, but this could definitely be proof of concept for those who
see.

How does daemontools tell when to take dependent daemons down and
restart dependent daemons? (The former is not something that should be
done, but systemd claims it as a feature. Getting started back up,
systemd does that one wrong, too (not the job of the pid 1 daemon),
but it's also not a straightforward task without some help from the
system.

I assume daemontools doesn't play games with altering the semantics of
file system permissions and any of that other stuff that systemd
chooses to do because the developers refuse to understand he math of
permissions? (systemd devs are not alone, of course, witness SELinux
and ACLs. Except that no one seems to be doing this one right other
than a few sysadmins who do it by hand. There's another bit of code
there I will probably end up having to write myself, at this rate.
Been trying to make time for it for the last five years or so.)

-- 
Joel Rees

Be careful where you see conspiracy.
Look first in your own heart,
and ask yourself if you are not your own worst enemy.


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