-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 09/17/2014 at 04:13 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
> Guys we've got better things to do than get sucked into this kind > of quibbling. > > Steve's working on alternatives to debian+systemd.* and I'm trying > to figure out what useful function systemd and friends really > perform so that we can make something that the developers can use > instead. Steve seems to be having more success than I. > > (It looks like dbus was one of the wedges, and that stupid logging > daemon, but there's another one or two hiding somewhere. The > wrecking crew have left us a lot of work, poisoning the well to > make systemd appear essential.) So far as I'm aware, the key other component appears to be handling cgroups (AKA control groups), which is a relatively recent Linux kernel feature that provides some nice process-management possibilities but isn't available for (pretty much) any other OS. Or at least any free/Free one. There's now a separate 'cgmanager' package which provides a program designed to handle cgroups separately from systemd, and there's code in systemd-shim to hook in to cgmanager from the places where software which expects the systemd implementation will be looking for cgroups support. But that may well not be enough to satisfy all use cases, and there do still seem to be bugs in some circumstances; help on that, upstream, is probably welcome. - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJUGZdbAAoJEASpNY00KDJrMW4P/RYvrxBkHo+gQYAzGz7rtszS MDuU6eBpVepfLu45hCDAIMzqQKiXUnJ9zG7rlFOpCxHz7n8IL2ZglRggsmMz/gSl a5rTsDISTDJ+T04l59WM3zquA38i1fnmQVgTksD1uPP1IN8rGUR0z9nYrXcGesPT 8/r9l58VXNtACc06fftaJ0fpAH6ZJUb8BnojDsH1qkTkbqvS39Mc2iWHlRb9vpKg NC7mXsxr/238CWGoL6hRd/uXEgmNw+LgxC0EnvV2vp76TN/nBrWlaNIH8zODFHC6 /LAMOqej0ZI3IEW00gsCwADw9amhVNE0JYydWRoFftY4FkEo/8PTTeqELGv0ffr7 6dgx+aaQsvCV8qyvahxl+p7kLDFS/S+BMWz+ccUIjalsH63m0dkDWlrC0URcQ8Cr io04yclvUt7M1mpfFM7k3+pSKXFOVInYN0ufFe8uTIyWMbDv00f8WodX9iFZHvD8 av3s3pXIlBayAbdw57aasgUkE6c/vfrq8MESDEWl6mbsT2toYHMluO6D0r6CFqk8 MpbYduhgPURulDwhK04DQ03ATeC2FeuCeEnhPUCnf6jtxTeiZcCctWN372wNtMfv PAjysJIrMYD+zZY/pAF8w+OpzuFwhZnMghbWOQK1QJApVlASMEwMm3qP+JPY5eiT dQd43037zyUw5CTZXYm9 =Uq3G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5419975b.1050...@fastmail.fm
