On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:05:25 -0500 Nate Bargmann <n...@n0nb.us> wrote:
> * On 2014 16 Sep 12:51 -0500, st wrote: > > Surely, I'd love to see the votes on 'What distribution currently > > alive is a fair Unix-like GNU/Linux, stable as in "Debian Woody"', > > though. > > Slackware, perhaps? > > Somehow I don't see Patrick embracing systemd, but I could be wrong. > It has been years since I seriously looked at Slackware despite my > starting out with it many years ago. > > - Nate The problem I personally see with Slackware is that the Slackers actually brag that their package manager doesn't figure out dependencies. Wow, let's go back to 1998, with the software complexity of 2014. Also, Slackware, like its buddy Arch, has a very complicated install procedure. I love close to the metal, but not in such a way that the slightest error in a multistep installation renders the box a doorstop, until you reinstall. Gentoo is not yet committed to going over to systemd, and its installation is sane if slow (due to compiling everything), but one problem I had with it was at the very end you compile a kernel, and if that kernel doesn't boot, you just wasted a lot of time, or you have to go in with a rescue CD and try to compile a kernel that *does* work and get grub2 to recognize it. Funtoo, from what I understand, is committed to *never* using systemd. I haven't investigated it yet. FreeBSD is, in my opinion, an attractive nuisience due to its package manager of the month never matching ports. Its PC-BSD incarnation has problems of its own, though it's better. I'm going to retry PC-BSD very soon now --- I got a PC-BSD install CD from Fossetcon in Orlando last week. In my opinion OpenBSD is phenominal. If I can get it to run Debian or Ubuntu in a qemu session, for those few programs I can't get to run in OpenBSD, I'm on it like a squirrel on a tree. Be aware, though, OpenBSD's filesystem is low performance, and takes forever creating and deleting files. If your work involves making and deleting lots of little files, you might not want OpenBSD. And last but not least is the alternative of holding your nose and using systemd. If I go that route, the first thing I'm going to do is remove daemons from systemd's control and move them to Daemontools. As a matter of fact, I've created a cron replacement in Python, which tonight I'm going to daemonize using Daemontools. I'm getting a lot of Daemontools practice, because no matter what my init, Daemontools might end up being a better alternative for most of my daemons. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140916174843.7721e...@mydesq2.domain.cxm