On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:25:16 -0400 Miles Fidelman <mfidel...@meetinghouse.net> wrote:
> Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > Doug writes: > > > On 09/16/2014 03:00 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > > > > > > And the GNU project started in 1984, so in the early '90 we > > > > already were working on bash an gcc and start enjoying the > > > > GNU version of some command in an improved Unix experience. > > > > > > > AH! You said it yourself! "...an improved _Unix_ experience." > > > (Emphasis added.) > > > > Yes, I said "improved". But I said "Unix experience" because it was > > still a full Unix experience. > > > > The improvement was from some GNU commands being more feature rich > > than the standard counterpart (but work perfectly well if used in > > the standard way): the bash shell has better editing and history (a > > bit better than ksh) but run all the Bourne Shell scripts; with the > > GNU tar you could have used the shorter "tar -zxvf file.tar.gz" and > > type less, but "gizip file.tar.gz | tar -xvf -" worked perfectly. > > > > If you turn GNU/Linux in a Windows-poor-lookalike it is no more a > > Unix experience. > > > > Often in the past young people arrived screaming "We have the great > > new thing that will change all", and a lot of "great new things" > > were lost in time like tears in rain... > > Just to be clear, here - since the point of this exchange seems to > have drifted: > > 1. Linux is a kernel; not an o/s, and not a distro. > 2. Debian is full operating system, and a distribution, consisting of: > - a Linux kernel (usually, but not always) > - a packaging system (APT) > - a collection of packages - starting with a lot of GNU libraries and > a GNU userland > 3. An awful lot of Debian depends on the GNU toolchain > > So... to whomever it was that said GNU is irrelevant, or words to > that effect... Debian, and most (all?) Linux distros are very much > dependent on GNU. Arguably, Debian is more intertwined with GNU than > with the Linux kernel (can you say Debian GNU/kFreeBSD?). > > Miles Fidelman > > > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140916184921.16d80...@jresid.jretrading.com
