A 0.90 revision on the thread 'brasero requires gvfs'. I see several viable options for those of us having to deal with systemd in Debian. I'll be upfront right from the startx; YMMV.
1. The obvious default choice is to deal with systemd as it is. In other words, "Try it, you'll like it, you're stuck with it anyway, now delve into it so you can configure and use it properly." 2. Use previously mentioned fixes for the systemd that is already installed in jessie. For example, removing systemd-logind if you don't need anything that depends on gnome-settings-daemon, libpam-systemd, lighttpd, live-config-systemd, sogo, systemd-cron, systemd-dbg, systemd-sysv, or systemd-ui ; apt-get removing binaries for non-gdm3 or non-lightdm X-display managers that require systemd libraries (such as libpam-systemd) ; installing and configuring systemd-shim together with sysvinit-core while you still can. On the last example, there is a running thread 'The future with Systemd' on the Debian User Forums (http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=116860&start=60 ) that may prove to be helpful here. YMMV as above. 3. Revert from jessie/testing back to wheezy/stable and keep it at wheezy as long as possible using regularly scheduled apt-get updating. Practically speaking this means that you'd have to back up your jessie system and fully re-install wheezy from the beginning. To put it fairly mildly, such a reversion would be vastly simpler for single-user desktop systems than for complex multi-user and/or server systems. 4. Based upon post linked at https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/09/msg00323.html, there are several full re-installation "escape route" alternatives. Subject: Re: brasero requires gvfs Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 14:09:04 -0400 On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 08:57:30 -0700 Carl Johnson <ca...@peak.org> wrote: > Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> writes: > > > On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 09:31:46 +0200 > > Sven Joachim <svenj...@gmx.de> wrote: > > > >> > The concept of free software has become a myth :( > >> > >> There is always Gentoo if libraries you consider useless bother > >> you. Binary distributions tend to enable all possibly useful > >> features. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Sven > > > > Gentoo isn't the only alternative. Just in case Jessie turns out to > > be unworkable for me when it goes stable, last night I made a very > > nice OpenBSD desktop computer that had most of what somebody could > > want on a desktop. However, try as I might, I couldn't get Sigil to > > compile on OpenBSD, and my business depends on Sigil for the next > > year or so. > > > > So what I'm now considering, as an escape route if systemd causes > > everything to go to hell in a handbasket (and we don't know whether > > that will happen), is that my main desktop is OpenBSD, with a > > virtual machine running Debian or Ubuntu in a VM in order to use > > Sigil and anything else I can't get to work on OpenBSD. > > > > I feel much better now that I know I have a Plan B. > > There is a FreeBSD port listed for sigil. If you don't want to run > FreeBSD, you could at least look at what their port does to get it to > compile. 4a and 4b. The Gentoo and OpenBSD alternatives are mentioned immediately above. 4c. There is also the Debian GNU/kFreeBSD alternative that similarly doesn't rely on systemd at the present time, see https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD. Debian GNU/kFreeBSD uses the kernel of FreeBSD instead of the Linux kernel. 4d. There is the Slackware Linux alternative that relies on BSD-init instead of systemd at the present time. As an FYI, the links http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/sigil/ and http://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.1/office/sigil/ demonstrate that there is a maintained Sigil port for Slackware. 4e. Ubuntu and Ubuntu-derived distros such as Linux Mint are alternatives that might stave off for an indefinite while the immediate introduction of systemd. I'm certain that others can think of even more and better alternatives here. Again as before, YMMV. Cheers! -- Go Open Source Software Bears! _____________________________________________________________ Get your FREE, LinuxWaves.com Email Now! --> http://www.LinuxWaves.com Join Linux Discussions! --> http://Community.LinuxWaves.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140908122918.43c65...@m0048138.ppops.net
