Ooops.  Ignore that trailing "did not work".  It was offscreen as I edited.


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kevin O'Gorman <kogor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Ron Leach <ronle...@tesco.net> wrote:
>
>> On 28/08/2014 16:58, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On reboot, it went unconditionally to Windows 8.1.  No signs of GRUB.
>>> It seems I'm still missing something.  I wonder what.
>>>
>>>
>> Kevin, is it worth cross-checking that the boot/BIOS is set up like this:
>>
>> http://d-i.debian.org/manual/en.amd64/ch03s06.html#boot-dev-select
>>
>> This was no help.  Only one suggestion was new to me: disabling fast
> startup in Windows.  I did that but see no difference.
>
>
>
>> I have been looking into dual boot with 8.1 because I was thinking about
>> a new laptop, and most of the reports I have seen have mentioned the effect
>> that you see.  Someone had suggested that W8.1 is rewriting the boot loader
>> back to its 'original' as a security measure (in case it had been changed
>> for bad purposes).  Apparently, there is a remark on MS support site about
>> this behaviour, but I have not seen it.  This article might help:
>>
>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/235567/windows-8-
>> removes-grub-as-default-boot-manager
>>
>> This was better.  First, the suggestion to use F12 was helpful: I wound
> up in a menu that allowed me to boot into Ubuntu on my hard drive for the
> very first time.
> Its suggestion about the bcdedit Windows command did not help until I
> watched the youtube video and realized I had not known how to run the
> command prompt as administrator.
> So: in Windows start menu, type "cmd" and _right_ click to run as
> administrator.  One solution presented was then to type the command exactly
> as shown:
>
>   bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi
>
> It warned that it might not work for everyone.  It turns out that included
> me.  But the thread went on to a YouTube video that showed how to turn off
> Win 8.1's "automatic repair" that apparently restores the Windows
> bootloader whether you want it or not.  The suggested fix was the command
>
> bcdedit /set {current} recoveryenabled no
>
>
> This also did nothing for me, but it might help folks who lose the ability
> to boot Ubuntu whenever they boot into Windows.  I haven't gotten that far.
>
> So what I have is F12 every time I want to boot into Ubuntu.  It's
> workable but annoying.  That's better than the prior unworkable state, so
> it counts as progress.
>
> One interesting thing is that F12 is the familiar "boot menu" key.  When I
> choose the drive I want to boot, it takes me to a second menu I've never
> seen before.  It has Ubuntu in 3 different spellings, and only the
> uncapitalized "ubuntu" one takes me where I want to go.  It was originally
> shorter.  I'm not sure what I'm doing to add things to the menu, especially
> misleading broken things.
>
> So mysteries remain, and I'll keep working on it.
>
>
>
>
>
> This did not work for me,
>
> When you do solve the problem, would you be able to post back explaining
>> what you had to do?
>>
>> regards Ron
>>
>>
>>
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