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On 08/03/2014 04:50 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

> The Wanderer wrote:
> 
>> Bob Proulx wrote:

>>> Note that Squeeze 6 /sbin/getting does not support --noclear so
>>> don't set this on Squeeze systems.  But for Wheezy 7 and later
>>> this snippet will make automate the change.  It is part of the
>>> standard system config for me.

>> And, again, where do you put this? I could easily see running it by
>> hand (or just making the changes by hand), of course, but the fact
>> that you have even so minorly complex a code snippet for it seems
>> to imply that you have it written down somewhere to run
>> automatically.
> 
> I am sorry if I was not clear in the above.  I included a snippet of
> my system configuration scripts so that it would show verbatim where
> things go and how it could be automatically set.  Unfortunately that
> opened up another question which was where would one put such system
> configuration scripts!  That is a question I don't have time to talk
> about right now.  It would involve cfengine, puppet, chef, my own
> processes, infrastructures, other things.
> 
> If you wish to open a new topic of discussion of how people by script
> automatically configure their systems then that would be an
> interesting discussion of automating system administration.  But
> there are dozens of strategies.  Everyone doing this has their own
> favorites.  Until then I will leave this last question you just now
> asked as an exercise for the reader.

That would indeed be an interesting discussion, but I can entirely
understand not having time for it. I'd be very interested in learning
more about more designed (as opposed to ad-hoc and probably kludgy)
system-administration processes in any case, including
mass-administration tools such as cfengine and puppet, but that would at
the very least be well offtopic for this thread.

>> Before reaching the login prompt, yes, you can scroll back (if no
>> new messages are being printed to yank you back down to the bottom,
>> anyway). However, once the screen is cleared for the login prompt,
>> in my experience you can't scroll back.
> 
> Try the above.  It won't be cleared.  You should be able to page
> back.

Yes, I was referring to the case with clearing still in effect.

>> (Also, how do you have less than a screen of boot messages?
> 
> I must have a higher resolution monitor than you.  (shrug) I have 44
> lines of console boot messages.  The monitor is an older 1280x1024
> monitor.  The default console size is 48 lines and annoyingly doesn't
> use the bottom third of the screen.  If it did use the full screen
> it would probably have 70 plus lines available.

I have a 2560x1600 monitor, and the console is full-screen, but still
only 25 lines; the text is just displayed at a larger scale, that's all.
I thought that sort of scaling was fairly standard, actually.

That explains the difference; your 44 lines would be nearly 2 full
screens of messages, for me, and your 84 lines would be over 3.

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   The Wanderer

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