On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:06 AM, Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 17:55:15 -0400 > Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> wrote:
FTR, since you seem to have misunderstood, I copied and pasted someone else's comments on OpenRC. >> If we're going to the effort of >> replacing init systems and changing our startup scripts, a bare >> minimum requirement for me is that we at least address the known >> weaknesses of the sysvinit mechanism, namely: >> >> * Lack of integration with kernel-level events to properly order >> startup. > > I don't want to be integrated with kernel level events. Give me a thin > interface and let me go. I'm a big believer in encapsulation. It depends on your use case. See this post by one of the Debian and upstream sysvinit developers: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/02/msg01043.html >> * No mechanism for process monitoring and restarting beyond inittab. > > :-) Maybe start your processes with Daemontools. > > I'm serious. If a process is that important that it needs to restart > the instant it terminates, Daemontools can do that. I don't know what > kind of monitoring you envision, but Daemontools has the svc and svok > and svstat commands. And the cool thing about Daemontools is you just > write a script to run the program from a terminal, wrap it in a couple > things, and it's a daemon. Complete with logging. *Text* logging. I'm not familiar with daemontools, I just know that it exists and what it's for. If it's so wonderful why wasn't installed by default by any distro? Or was process supervision never considered a plus except by the systemd developers. "*Text* logging": The Debian systemd default is to enable text logging by having "ForwardToSyslog=yes" in "/etc/systemd/journal.conf" and rsyslog installed. Since the Debian "/etc/systemd/journal.conf" storage default is "Storage=auto", you can delete "/var/log/journal" and the journald logs will be only stored on tmpfs in "/run/log/journal". You can achieve the same result by changing "Storage=auto" to "Storage=volatile". You can go further and set "Storage=none" to avoid having any journald logs stored and have the logs forwarded to rsyslog (if you haven't changed that the default Debian systemd forward setting). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=sydaot1vvi_u7ygv1iqo9mi4phbbozbd6xmyfj1sen...@mail.gmail.com
